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in the old days, back in the late 60's early 70's , when i was a lad and my disfunctional dad would take us out my uncle lennys twin screw criscraft with the magnito ingnition out of whitestone marina

lenny was and old navy cheif with combat service in WW2 pacific theater and korea, who would drink schafer after schafer beer out of them old tin cans he would give me the honor of opening with the pie cutter can opener, lenny would sit up on the flybridge, with his crusty captains cap on, as he sucked the schafers dry, he would tosss them tin cans over his sholder, into the wash and yell to me "splice the main brace!" or something like that....drink like 30 cans in a afternoon! when he got real drunk and went into the cabin to piss in the bucket that fit into the head, lenny would let one of us kids steer the boat(trolling speed) untill he got back from pisssing

"splice the main brace!" that meant i had to grab another beer from the metal coleman cooler and run it up to the bridge, pull the opener out of my pocket and put the two holes in the top of the can, one hole a big one and a smaller one on the other side


he would sit up there getting pie-eyed , trolling us back and forth under the bridges (whitestone and throgs neck) all day long, till the beer ran out!

i remember we would troll stailless steel wire line with the big bunker spoons for weeks, blues, line-siders then in the later years, my old man got pissed one day at the wire line, screaming at us kids with his own frustration, while uncle lenny was up on the bridge with a big smile on his face , mumbleing in a drunken stupor "birds-nest again?"

we always caught fish, but we kids(brother chris 2years younger than me and older sister renee' year old than me) were not allowed to touch the dam tackle on orders from my grouchey old man " you friggin kids are gonna birds-nest the god dam poles" he would say. so we would sit in the front and wait for the ******* to to tangle him-self up witch usually only took a few minutes and he would either birds nest the wire line or snag bottom(probally uncle lennys mounntain of schafer cans down there) we kids would get yelled at again for "friggin sittin up there donig nothing".

then the next weekend my pop had respooled with nylon covered lead core line, that changed color on the covering every 10 yerds so you could tell how far out it was, with the lead core line i remember there suddenly appered "umberlla rigs" on the baot, and also 18" long lead head eels with 2 hook

appertnly the wire core crap was easyer to use and did not tangle and also because he could tell how far out it was by counting the colors, snagging the bottom did not happen so much....we kids were finally allowed to reel in fish!

on the way in to marina , lenny would curse the "sky-larks" and the "jabonies". these were other boaters that did not meet uncle lennys seamanship standards

jeezus i still remember watching them emptys bob and float in the wash from lennys twin chrystlers, i would watch them float all the way back eventually they would fill with brine and sink about 200 yerds back, i remember it like it was yesterday,

lenny would yell "flotsum" when he saw some others boats beer cans in the water and yell "jetsum" when he threw his own over.

we did not hear much from uncle lenny if it was not related to him killing "jap shore batteries" 40mm shells(2 of which were mounted on either side of the cris-crafe bridge, always polished to a shiney brass, beers or boats. same stuff over and over

i was 9 years old when this started, he finally drank himself to death when i was 15 but not before loosing both legs to the doctors knife due to "sugar", what ever that was

so forget the licenses, forget the beer, but dont forget uncle lenny

does anyone know what the following sea slang means?

splice the main brace
flotsum
jetsum
sky-lark
jabronie
sugar as related to an illness

boy, them were good days for a kid, to be exposed to my disfunctional dad for hours on end(he has been on prozac for the past 5 years and doing no better), got to spend lots of time digging into the chipped block ice filled cooler for lennys schafers

i rmember the white cris-craft with the sky-blue trim and varnished wood work, all the britework was always clean and shiney

looking back i am sure the motors were chrystlers with magnitos because they were that light blue-green color that them chrystleys came in, and lenny had to use bus battery and jumper cables to start it, then the battery and jumper cables got stowed under the seat. once it was started the battery went away

open the hatches, check the oil, turn on the fuel valves, spray stuff into the carbarotor(either?) get the battery out from under the seat(weight 70lbs) hook the cables to the starter directly, choke the bitch and hit the starter button, man when them engines spraked over, powerful rumble, gurgled by the water, then he would do the other engine. i remember it was always the port engine first

he would gas up at the gas barge with "white gas" what ever the **** that was. i remember gassing up at the whitestone marina and one time in manhasset bay at the gulf gas barge

anyone else wanna relate a yarn on there first saltwater fishing experences as related to boating or how screwed up the dads are when you went fishing as a kid?


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Fishing story from when I was a kid

My first fishing trip was with my Dad and my uncle Bill in his 16 ft. Thompson with 50hp Evinrude in 1961 on Jamaica Bay on a cold October day. It was a very windy day and my Dad was shielding me from the spray, with the water dripping down his face. My mom told me he was afraid of the water because he couldn't swim, but he never let me know that. It wasn't until about a year ago that I realized that he had two bad experiences with water in WWII. The first was the amphibious landing he made at Salerno, Italy in Sept. 1943 with the 36th Div. - the first US Army landing in Europe. He spoke about that landing whenever we watched war movies together. But he never spoke about the second time at the Rapido River battle near Cassino in Italy on two nights, January 21-22, 1944 that he survived. I found a lot of information during the past year about the WWII Italian campaign from the 36th Division website. Many men were killed from anti-personnel mines, artillery, mortar and machine gun fire, or drowned trying to cross using plywood or rubber boats that proved useless. Bridges were blown up, or partially submerged, and my dad managed to cross and return. Nearly an entire regiment was lost. Quite a few New Yorkers and Brooklyn boys were in the 36th "Texas" Division.
We didn't catch any fish that day in October, near Floyd Bennett Field, but I still remember the salt spray and the waves, that looked like "Victory at Sea" from my sheltered spot below the windshield of the Thompson.
 

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roslynny, "sugar", I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like he was diebetic. Left untreated, I think you can lose some extremities.

"Jabronie", is it pronounced - "Ja-bone-ee"? If so, I take it to mean same as a knucklehead.

"Jetsum", perhaps you mean "jettison", as in WWII ships would jettison depth charges over the side to combat against submarines. Beer can, depth charges, same shape, launched in the same way in that they were not just dropped, but propelled away from the vessel.

"Sky-lark" getting tounge twisted now, but I think there is a yiddish word pronounced like that, I take it to mean a businessman who will fleece you out of your money, or the local neighborhood loan shark, you said you were going to get fuel.

"Splice the main brace", from the old Royal Navy, a difficult task on old sailing ships where-as the person who managed to do this was often issued an extra ration of rum.

"Flotsom" rings a ring bell as well, but it's too early in the morning, if it comes to me, I'll post later, going fishin' now.

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sugar-diabetic
skylark- a crazy bird...MakoMatt you r thinking of "shylark"
Flotsam and Jetsam- discarded ship cargo
Jabonee- Knucklehead
Jabronee- "the Rock's" version of jabonee.

I do remember a bittersweet story from the past...my stepfather misnetted a 10+ lb largemouth in a Pennsylvania lake when I was 14 yrs. old and I lost that fish (perhaps a state record).

Later in life when I got bigger I beat him like a circus monkey for it.
 

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Iky-you are correct on the spelling...a a slight of the pen on my part. The definition is not...makomatt had it correct, it is an old world term used for a hard-money lender or as we would call them today...loan shark.
 

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1st. "solo" fishing trip in 1959

My dad and grandma got me started fishing when I was about 3 years old, went Floundering, Fluking, crabing, all the back bay stuff available in the Massapequas, it was a great time.

My first "solo" trip, without any adults, happened when I was 5 years old. We were living in Little Neck at the time, just 4 houses up from Nothern Blvd. One summer morning, I told my mom I was going fishing, she said "OK", thinking I guess I was going to play fishing in the yard. Well, I got my pole, still can remember that pole too, boat pole as I called them, tan in color, Penn Reel, probably a Long Beach, with dacron line. I got my friend who lived up the block, Kevin Larkin, and the 2 of us walked West on Northern Blvd. approx. 2 miles to the Cross Island Parkway, and then walked North along the pathway between Northern Blvd. and the Throgs Neck Bridge. We spent the day there fishing, had a great time, and left around 5:30 - 6:00 pm. I remember walking up my block and seeing all the N.Y.P.D. cars out in front of my house, and when I walked in, there was a million people, mostly police, but neighbors, relatives, TV news crews too, the placed was packed. Well let me tell you, were they ever surprised to see me!!!!

Well, didn't catch anything that day but a good beatin' I think, but, I did manage to get my picture on the early evening news.

Things were a lot different back in 59', kids weren't missing like that, and when it did happen, it made the news. Somewhere along the way I think the country has lost its' innocence, we are a different nation today, and not for the better I fear. Kids are missing every day, and not cause they went fishin', makes you sick.

Tight lines,
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Very good Makomike...but the character "*******" in Merchant was used allegorically by Shakespeare. The term was already in use at that time to describe private $ lenders...B.A. English S.U.N.Y. Geneseo '87. (That's one of the FEW things I remember!!!)
 
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