[Scott1280]

Considering the credit crunch & housing market collapse, I'm not surprised by this at all. The part that I find most disturbing is the reduction in private sector jobs while the public sector increased.

Job losses were widespread, with hefty cuts coming from construction, manufacturing, retailing and a variety of professional and business services. Those losses swamped gains elsewhere including education and health care, leisure and hospitality, and the government.

We need private business and the taxes they pay to fund the schools, healthcare & government that they are simultaneously increasing. Not a good long term scenario.

 

[Blazetoy]

Scott..I agree, if the primary job sectors fail (i.e. Manufacturing) the secondary job sectors are doomed to failure (i.e. Services).

Small companies are the economic catalyst for this country.

 

[STRIKERTHREE]

I guess my company is an exception their hiring 2k people a year for the next 4 years

 

[likeitreallyis]

hmmmm

No comment.

Nice to see you coming around Scott.

There will be many stressed, out of work Americans who will need health care. But don't worry the rich people will share the burden.

You know the ones like Romney who made millions off shoring those very jobs you mention..

This post edited by likeitreallyis 02:26 PM 03/07/2008

 

[likeitreallyis]

STRIKERTHREE wrote:
I guess my company is an exception their hiring 2k people a year for the next 4 years

You're in the Army?

Exception indeed. American jobs are vanishing. Enjoy your imports. Feed the corporate pigs and give them even more tax breaks. Help them help themselves at your expense.

 

[Koz54]

It is very hard to find qualified employees who want manufacturing jobs around here these days.

Not many younger people are getting into these types of positions anymore.

I want to hire people for a few good decent paying manufacturing positions and have spent a few thousand dollars last year and so far this year trying to fill these positions without any success.

 

[likeitreallyis]

Koz,

Many younger people have left the Island in droves... many would love to come back. You should consider running a few ads out of state... but to live here you really need to be paid MUCH higher than almost most places with the exception of San Jose CA... would they be able to afford a house here at what you are offering?

 

[BLUEFISH9]

I recently heard that civil service jobs are the hottest jobs in the nation right now. Wether or not its true I cant say but it sure makes sense...No matter how much your boss likes you, No matter how great of an employee you are...You have zero security in the private sector. In the private sector, when it comes down to the owner of the company feeding his family or you feeding yours...Who do you think is gonna win?

This post edited by BLUEFISH9 02:51 PM 03/07/2008

 

[FredyFluke]

and the equity value of the number one assent of like 80% of Americans just fell below 50%...the lowest since pre WWII...

ladies and gentlemen...I give you....

RECESSION...

 

[Koz54]

LIRI, it depends on their qualifications in regards to salary. We have paid good CNC machinists pretty close to what I make as a salary a couple of times. They come in ?off the street? and I have been here 32 years total. (27 years full time) They just don?t want to live on Long Island anymore.

I have never really given thought in running ads out of state simply because while I do agree that many manufacturing people have left the state and headed mostly south. Several that used to work here took a 30-50% pay cut to move to North Carolina. Most of them (that I know about) have increased their standard of living having done so. That is why I don?t think many would want to come back.

I am part of a small family business. (I run the manufacturing part) I have been seriously considering trying to lobby the others involved (My parents and brother) to perhaps make a move south with the business.

I like it better than my idiot brother?s idea

. He has been trying to basically outsource a lot of our standard products overseas to Korea, Taiwan, and China. I am firmly opposed to that, as is my father. My dad is an ?old school? machinist that won?t have anything to do with outsourcing.

I love Long Island for the most part, but it is getting almost impossible to stay here as a small manufacturing business and remain profitable.

 

[MakoMike]

I know that the IRS has been recruiting like gangbusters. The problem is that they pay only about 60% of what one could make working in private industry or public accounting.

 

[FredyFluke]

MakoMike wrote:
I know that the IRS has been recruiting like gangbusters. The problem is that they pay only about 60% of what one could make working in private industry or public accounting.

yea but they got government bene's and pension.. that is more important to a lot of people than top salary.

Geez Mike, you think they are gearing up for something??

 

[Scott1280]

BLUEFISH9 wrote:
I recently heard that civil service jobs are the hottest jobs in the nation right now. Wether or not its true I cant say but it sure makes sense...No matter how much your boss likes you, No matter how great of an employee you are...You have zero security in the private sector. In the private sector, when it comes down to the owner of the company feeding his family or you feeding yours...Who do you think is gonna win?
True blue, but if the government continues to grow, and the private sector gets squeezed with higher taxes to pay for the bigger government, they will continue to relocate to more business friendly places. Sometimes that's other states, and sometimes it's out of the country.

BTW - For all the talk of guaranteed this and guaranteed that (healthcare, employment, whatever), where exactly are we guaranteed all of this stuff? This country was not founded on life, liberty and guaranteed healthcare. It is the pursuit of happiness. Can anybody give me an example of a single country in the world where all this stuff everyone wants is provided? Government is a hungry creature and it feeds out of the pockets of the people.

 

[Scott1280]

likeitreallyis wrote:
Koz,

Many younger people have left the Island in droves... many would love to come back. You should consider running a few ads out of state... but to live here you really need to be paid MUCH higher than almost most places with the exception of San Jose CA... would they be able to afford a house here at what you are offering?
Is it the house they can't afford or the taxes and utilities that go along with it? My taxes are almost as much as my mortgage payment for goodness sake!

 

[Scott1280]

Koz54 wrote:

I love Long Island for the most part, but it is getting almost impossible to stay here as a small manufacturing business and remain profitable.

What are the top 3 things that make it so difficult to be profitable here that would be less of a problem elsewhere?

 

[BLUEFISH9]

Scott...Sounds like its time to move!

 

[FredyFluke]

Scott1280 wrote:
likeitreallyis wrote:
Koz,

Many younger people have left the Island in droves... many would love to come back. You should consider running a few ads out of state... but to live here you really need to be paid MUCH higher than almost most places with the exception of San Jose CA... would they be able to afford a house here at what you are offering?
Is it the house they can't afford or the taxes and utilities that go along with it? My taxes are almost as much as my mortgage payment for goodness sake!

$1200.00 a month for me...
that is just on the house...

then we have all of those other wonderful taxes to pay...like INCOME TAX, SALES TAX, and tax and tax and tax and tax..

 

[Koz54]

Scott1280 wrote:

What are the top 3 things that make it so difficult to be profitable here that would be less of a problem elsewhere?

Scott, off the top of my head three things that cost more here than they do down south are:

Taxes our company pays for the building.

Utilities, electricity in particular

Salaries paid to employees.







This post edited by Koz54 03:26 PM 03/07/2008

 

[MakoMike]

Scott1280 wrote:
Can anybody give me an example of a single country in the world where all this stuff everyone wants is provided?

The U.A.E. and Dubai

 

[STRIKERTHREE]

likeitreallyis wrote:
STRIKERTHREE wrote:
I guess my company is an exception their hiring 2k people a year for the next 4 years

You're in the Army?

Exception indeed. American jobs are vanishing. Enjoy your imports. Feed the corporate pigs and give them even more tax breaks. Help them help themselves at your expense.

Nope not in the Army but in a field thats in demand and outside of civil service one of the most sought after industries