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I'm a chef, I prepare and eat skate pretty often. Question is this...are the skates I'm catching on the south shore the same type my fish purveyor is selling? Is there any danger in cleaning and eating them? I first ate skate wing several years ago and find it to be a very unique and delicious fish. Now, I know they are a pain in the ass to filet, but is that the only reason people do not keep them?

As far as I know there is no DEC regs on them...If anyone could shed some light on why this delicious fish is considered trash i'd love to know
 

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There are numerous sepecies of skates that can and are caught in the area. The most common types for recreational anglers are the little skate and the thorny skate. None of the skate species are poisonous. All of the ones I have tasted taste about the same to me. Problem with the little skate is that it is really too much work on all but the largest specimins to filet them. other skates get much bigger and theya re definately worth the effort to filet. NMFS has a guide to skates of the northeast on one of its webpages. There are many species of skates that primarily inhabit deep water and are not usually caught be recreational anglers.
 

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Yummy stuff.


My mom used to make a spicy casserarole with skate, daikon radishes, bean sprouts, scaillions, onions, and a lot of spicies...sorry I can't remember what they were, but it was good...


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Yes! "Recession causes man to eat skate!" I can see the headline now.

All my staff at the restaurant that were willing to try it really liked it. As a chef you dream of a fish like this, beautiful texture and very mellow fish flavor. I wonder about the ammonia odor...according to a respected food text, this odor is present the more fresh the fish is and is normal and harmless. That would explain why the fish coming to the restaurant don't smell this way, they are already at least 48 hrs old.
The next time I hook one of these "interuptions to my bass fishing" im going to take it home and eat it, and compare it to what I get at the restaurant. And the recession has nothing to do with it, I wind up spending more on bait in the long run then if I would have just bought fish with that money...Gas is another story.
 

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thinklikeafish wrote:
I wonder about the ammonia odor...according to a respected food text, this odor is present the more fresh the fish is and is normal and harmless. That would explain why the fish coming to the restaurant don't smell this way, they are already at least 48 hrs old.

Skates are in the same line as sharks and they pass urea thru the skin. The fillets you get are probably washed well to remove the waste. A salt brine is a good way to wash fillets. The only sharks that do not p-ss thru their skin are the mackeral sharks which are makos, porbeagls and great whites.
 

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Ammonia oder can be eliminated by soaking them in lemon water mixture for 15 minutes. I dont know why anyone would want to fillet a skate! All you have to do is cut the winds off and skin them. After cooking them the meat slides off the cartilidge very easely
 

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How large should they be to make cleaning one worth the trouble?12"wingspan,18"wingspan?Any other tips on preparation?

I would say even 18 inches is kind of small, I usually don't bother unless the skate is at leawst 2 feet wing tip to wing tip.
 

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Every year I say the samething...THIS IS THE YEAR ILL TRY A SKATE....ok this is the year.
I bet their going to run from me now


Once I boat them...should I de-wing them???
Or ice them then cut the wings off?
 

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thinklikeafish wrote:
I'm a chef, I prepare and eat skate pretty often. Question is this...are the skates I'm catching on the south shore the same type my fish purveyor is selling? Is there any danger in cleaning and eating them? I first ate skate wing several years ago and find it to be a very unique and delicious fish. Now, I know they are a pain in the ass to filet, but is that the only reason people do not keep them?

As far as I know there is no DEC regs on them...If anyone could shed some light on why this delicious fish is considered trash i'd love to know



You made me think about when I was in culinary school and I remembered using skate quit regularly. I'll pm you a quickly scanned copy of a recipe I found. It's pretty involved but it is French.
 

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thinklikeafish wrote:
I'm a chef, I prepare and eat skate pretty often. Question is this...are the skates I'm catching on the south shore the same type my fish purveyor is selling? Is there any danger in cleaning and eating them? I first ate skate wing several years ago and find it to be a very unique and delicious fish. Now, I know they are a pain in the ass to filet, but is that the only reason people do not keep them?

As far as I know there is no DEC regs on them...If anyone could shed some light on why this delicious fish is considered trash i'd love to know



I never noticed you can't sent an attachment.

So here's s copy/paste.


COURSE TITLE: THE FRENCH CULINARY INSTITUTE
CLASSIC FRENCH COOKING 462 Broadway
New York, New York 10013 SEGMENT TITLE: LEVEL 4/ADVANCED

POISSONNIER.

RECIPE: AILE DE RAIE POCHE, BEURRE NOISETTE AUX CAPRES POACHED SKATE WITH BROWN BUTTER AND CAPERS

This recipe is a classic French preparation for skate that is also prepared in a similar fashion at the renowned French seafood restaurant Le Bemardin. Eric Ripert, the chef, suggests that "If you make this recipe with French salted butter, which has a higher ratio of fat to water than American butter, your life will be easier and your sauce more stable. If you have to use American butter, be careful to add it very slowly, otherwise your sauce will separate."

Ingredients (for 8 servings) The Court Bouillon
500 milliliters red wine vinegar 31/2 liters water
2 branches thyme
Handful of leek greens, chopped 1 small carrot, emince
1 small celery branch, emince 6 garlic cloves, peeled
3 bay leaves
1 tablespoon salt
1 tablespoon black peppercorns

The Brown Butter
250 milliliters fish stock
280 grams butter
140 milliliters red wine vinegar
75 grams drained capers
Freshly ground white pepper, to taste

The Skate
1 1/2 liters court bouillon
8 portions cleaned skate wings, 150 grams for the lunch menu and 125 grams for the dinner menu
Fine sea salt, to taste
2 1/2 tablespoons minced chives

Procedure
For the Court Bouillon
1. Simmer all of the ingredients for 15 minutes, and then strain through a fine chinois.

For the Butter
1. Preheat the oven to 550°F.
2. Put the fish stock in a medium-size saucepan over high heat. Bring to a boil, lower the heat, and simmer until reduced to 125 milliliters.

3. Put 225 grams of the butter in another medium-size saucepan over high heat. Cook, gently shaking the pan, until the butter turns dark brown, but not black.
in a stream into the center of the pan and whisk it in. Remove' ?the pan from the heat and continue whisking for about 20 seconds.

4. Bring the fish stock to a boil, and, whisking continuously, begin very slowly dripping in the brown butter/vinegar. After about 15 seconds, pull the pan off the heat but keep it near the hot burner. Continue Slowly adding the butter until the sauce is emulsified and all the brown butter is incorporated. Add the remaining 55 grams of butter and whisk slowly until it is absorbed into the sauce. Season with salt and pepper. Cover and keep warm, near, but off of the heat.

If the sauce breaks bring, 125 milliliters water to a boil. Pull the pan of water off the heat, but keep it near the hot burner. Whisking constantly, very slowly drip the sauce into the water
Put the pan back on the heat from time to time as you water , to keep the sauce just below a simmer , it should emulsify into a smooth sauce.

For the Skate

1. Bring the court bouillon to a simmer in a large sautoir or small marmite. Season the skate on both sides with salt and pepper and immerse it in the pan (the pieces may overlap slightly). Cook gently (the liquid need not boil) until a knife can be easily inserted between the creases in the fish.

2. Using a long, wide spatula, remove the skate and blot dry on paper towels. Transfer the skate to warm dinner plates. Add some capers to the sauce and spoon it over and around the skate; completely covering the plate and making sure the capers are evenly distributed over the fish. Sprinkle the chives over the skate and serve immediately.
 

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Makoman16 wrote:
TOMCHUM wrote:
Not Yet,When we start eating Hackleheads,That's when you know for sure we are in a Recession.....
Isn't that sucker's tail a delicacy over-seas already?
Probably so but the way things are heading,We'll be eating Teeth.
 

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does anyone have avideo of skate filleting?
does the skin rip off?

i always thought about eating skate but i didn't know what to do with it...

it is also the same kind of reason why i eat sea robin now...it tends to be the only fish i catch
 
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