[mojoe]

this is on chumming with corn for flounders, i mix my own at times with clams,mussels. cooked rice {dye red}AND CORN it does work! now back to the corn i read articles on using corn {THE FISHERMAN} for flounders and its a good attractive, BUT one of my good fishing friends tells me dont use CORN because it will KILL the flounders is this true? i DONT BELIEVE HIM! its something with there stomach. but i always used corn in years gone by and know of many fisherman using CORN. if its true can that add to the decline in the flounders in years. what do you think about this ~~~~ MOJOE ~~~~ ><))))):> ~~~~~~ ><)))):>

 

[Fishing Friend]

Hi Mojoe. I think corn is o.k. and safe to use. I'm not of aware of any studies proving it's safety or it's danger.

 

[baywatch]

search

This was a topic last year and there where some good articles about your question about corn.

Do a search on it and there is probably a few items there.

Just think how you digest corn!

 

[616787]

This was a long-running issue way, way back. I don't remember any of the details, but I remember the consensus being, from what was very good authorities, that it does no harm to the flounder, and I seem to remember that they actually thrived on it.

 

[floatstone]

Heard both sides of the story. I just want to go fishing for flounder and not have to chum at all. Now we need to go out with 3-4 clam chums, anchor and or drift for half the day for the limit of 8. I will say the size is up but the numbers are down. Saw a 3lbs 12.5 oz flounder last year. The good old days are over, fishing for winter flounders and not having to chum

Floatstone

 

[cat14361]

corn and flounders

here is my vibe on corn and flounders, if you feed them to much they will shut off for a while until they are ready again for feeding. i did see some thing on espn a long time ago....cat14361

 

[greggie195]

Corn

While in college in Southampton I told one of my professor I use corn as chum. He has his PhD in fisheries biology and a MS in aquactulture, and knows his stuff. All he had to say was that it cant be good for them although it hasnt really been studied. He said they dont naturally eat it and probably have trouble digesting it (like us) whether it kills them or not I dont think is known

 

[PGB53]

I don't know if there has been any research done, but what I have been told is that corn which as we know is not easily digested can become lodged in the digestive system of flounder. We can easily pass it because of the obvious size difference in our digestive system. Like I said I don't know if it is true or not but it seems to make some sense.
PGB53

 

[mojoe]

~~~ guys thanks for the great replys so far i would like to hear more ~~~ MOJOE ~~~ ><)))):>

 

[LkyLindy]

flounder and Rabbits

Some guys swear by rabbit pellets-if they can eat that -corn can't hurt

 

[seaslug44]

The discussion we had here about this a few years ago was in the old forum and is no longer available. The consensus was that it didn't hurt the fish and that the flounder may actually acquire nutrition.

For about seven years I had flounder living in a "local" tank in my home. Sometimes these fish would eat small stones, seaweed, crushed coral, and sharp shells. One time another creature in the tank cracked the glass heater and the flounder ate the broken pieces of glass. They also had a habit of crushing barnacles and eating them shell and all.

The theory that a nice smooth piece of corn would do damage to their digestive system is a joke. On the other hand, I'd like to see a human survive for a weekend on half of the jagged items these fish passed through their system.

 

[greggie195]

Good Point

Good point Dr. Fish, flounders do eat shelled creatures and Im sure many times they eat the shells and they live to tell about it. Ive actually caught bass with huge rocks in their bellies, needless to say fish arent the smartest creatures out there. Interesting, yes, smart...no!

 

[seaslug44]

quote:
needless to say fish arent the smartest creatures out there. Interesting, yes, smart...no!

I totally agree. That's a great idea for a new topic... strangest thing you ever found in a fish's gut. I'm going to start it right now...

 

[craigkoproski]

I don't think it would bother a flounder

I do know that it will kill trout for the reason stated above it gets lodged in their digestive track and prevents them from eating so they eventually starve to death. Not a good way to go. I always used to see guys using it for trout bait I would tell them that it kills the trout and they claimed it didn't because a fish wouldn't eat something that would kill it. Its a lost cause arguing with some people. I guess its like the don't eat berries that the birds won't eat theory. Flounder however are used to eating things that are hard to digest so passing corn shouldn't be an issue.

 

[PGB53]

Dr Fish,

You had a flounder that could crush barnacles????

 

[seaslug44]

quote:
You had a flounder that could crush barnacles????

They crush and eat baby mussels, crabs and shrimp too. By the way, has anyone ever looked at the choppers on sand worms and blood worms? -Not exactly something I'd like to try to pass through my digestive system.

(This post edited by DoctorFish on 03/02/2003)

 

[LkyLindy]

Flounder Jaws

Ouch-

 

[PGB53]

Doctor Fish,
Perhaps you misunderstood my original post. I didn't say that corn damaged the digestive tract of flounder I said it becomes lodged in it. And as craigkoproski noted in a later post what happens is the fish actually starves to death. I don't think this would happen if using canned corn but I think it is possible if you use frozen or feed corn. The smooth round shape you refer to is exactly what causes the problem. It allows the corn to act as a plug. Do you know that 2 of the most dangerous things you can feed a young child are whole grapes and slices of hotdog? These "smooth round" foods lodge in the throats and cause choking.You should also consider the fact that juvenile flounder may eat this corn and I would assume that it would be much more dangerous to them. As far as crushing barnacles I didn't think that flounders had the power to do that and I can't imagine why they would eat glass.
PGB53

 

[621946]

My conclusion after reading this thread, is that we don't know. Since there are other type of chum that work, I'll play it safe and leave the corn at home. God knows, there are precious few flounder as it is.

 

[Fishing Friend]

I think Woodsman is right.