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a lifelong spinner devotee, i am finally going to break down and try a conventional rig. i will use it primarily for tossing bombers, darters, tins, and bucktails from south shore jetties with some occasional back bay lurking, and the rare boat angling.

i guess 8' feels right.
i'm pretty sold on levelwind.

i'm thinking lami inshore classic/tica caiman?
don't know much about these rods other than they look nice. the caiman has gotten raves from some guys.

but i hold your opinion in very high regard.

any thoughts under $300 total?

recomendations appreciated.



This message was edited by feltman on 3-6-02 @ 2:03 PM
 

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Hello Feltman,

Welcome to the world of conventional casting? but just keep in mind that there is always a place for spinning!

Since you are planning to fish the South Shore, Jetties and some back bays? I strongly recommend something over 8? long and a little beefier!

Here are the reasons?

First, there is a ?distance factor? - Many times, you have to content with breakers from the south shores (Ocean side) and therefore you need to cast over the waves and reach the fish. Although some stripers strives in the wave?s crest? you still need to reach to make a proper lure presentation.

Secondly, if you are fishing jetties, you need the extra lifting & controlling power to tame a big fish. At times, these methods demands large bucktails, darters, tins and other big plugs? Therefore a heavier outfit is better suited for you.

When conventional casting? You will also realize how much control / feel you will have when tossing a live eel or a large wooden swimmer!

With all that, I recommend a 9? ? 11? rod rating anywhere from 1-5ounch payload!

Now? You also asked the question about level wind ?or- no level wind. Well, let me put it this way and I?ll let you decide. If you are also planning to do powercasting (wind on your face, extra distance, heavier plug / chunking) you may want to discard the level wind idea. The level wind will get in the way? because you will be using shock-leaders and really work the reel to it?s maximum capability.

However, if you are comfortable tossing plugs all day and night long? than the level wind is preferred. Less headaches and not having to worry about line control (into spool)?.

As the brand is concerned? Well, I like the Abu?s (more in your said price range) but the Tica / caiman is not a bad idea?but I can't vouch for reels performance (haven't tried it yet). The calcutta?s is also a decent reel? but it may blow your budget and leave very little left for your rod.

Let's go to the rod department? OK, there are many quality brands in the market today that will fit your needs. I?ve been very content with the Lamiglas and the St. Croix rods. The warranty is incredible and since you are planning to purchase a "combo" a local B&T shop will probably give you a decent discounted rate!

Please give me some feedback (level wind, length, etc..) and I will help you to purchase a well balance combo with the price range that will meet your budget. :)

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wow thanks CA!
yeah, i definitely want levelwind. i'm going to be tossing jigs and plugs 2oz and under 99% of the time. as far as length, i would prefer something closer to 9' and preferably a two-piece (we have 8.5' ceilings and my wife is not that tolerant.) i don't see myself doing much 'power-casting' and i already have a nice beach spinning rig.

what i'd love is a nice light, smooth, outfit, under $300 that i can work the jetties all day/night or sight cast in the flats or back bays.
but of course, something that can handle a windy day and land the cow, if i get lucky.
 

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OK? Feltman?
I believe you will be happy with this outfit that I am recommending (meets your requirement) and it should be very close to your budget!

The Ambassadeur (ABU) 6500 CS Mag Lite reel (Gear ratio 5.3:1 (line capacity 14 / 245 yards) tipped with a Lamiglas IC86H 8?6? inches. Fast Action (1 pc.) Rated for ½ - 2 ½ lure wt., line weight 12 ? 25 lbs. test.

If the 8?6? is too long? my second recommendation is the model IC80XH, 1pc. which is 8? long, rated from ¾-3 ouch, 15-30 lbs. test,Fast action!

This is a great "balanced" outfit! It's light enough for tossing small backbays lures and tough enough for the ocean jetties!

Good luck and enjoy! :)

"Crazy" Alberto
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Thanks Crazy Al,

Yeah i was all set on the IC86, then i found an XS9MHC on a popular auction-site for a song, it was basically brand new and the guy totally mispelled lamiglas--so nobody saw the auction and nobody bid on it!!!
I got if for a lot less than even the IC rod, plus it's a two piece.
I know it's not going to finesse anything south of a bomber, and maybe not even that. But i couldn't pass up on the deal.

You ever use this rod? Can it throw a bomber at all?

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Hello Fetman,

Originally I was going to recommend that model but it was out of your $300 price range - therefore I opted for the IC86H?

The XS9MHC is a "higher quality" with a moderate/fast action and it has a lot of backbone power! It is rated from 1-3 ouch, which you are not going to have any problem tossing a bomber at all! In fact, I spoke to Ron Arra and he speaks very highly of that rod! ;)

From the looks of things, you bought it for a lot less than the IC model?With all the extra savings, you should have enough to buy a few extra lures! Great deal! :)

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oh boy, am i psyched. first crazy al's then ron arra's blessing...its a dream come true. i picked up the black caiman which i chose over the abu for no particular good reason, other than it looks cool, and it has gotten some great reviews.

under the advisement of a very close friend of your's i'm loading it up w/50# whiplash, which was not my first inkling, but was assured by a slew of experts from another board that it was the way to go.

even after the expense of whiplash, rod, and reel, i still had enough for a megabait minnow, a whole bunch of 1 & 2oz jetty-casters.

thanks a ton for your insights. hope to find you out there (don't worry. if i do, i won't tell a soul where,)

feltman
 
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