[KILSONG]

There is no doubt loop to loop connetion between braided and braided is the most strongest and reliable connection.
I'be using uni to uni knot for conneting between braided lines. Though I haven't had any problem with the knot so far, I'd rather use loop to loop connection for heavy lines to target big fish.
The problem is there is no color coded hollow braided line in the market yet. Braided line manufacturers should see the potential demand.

 

[chumslk]

Yes, I mentioned this a few times in previous posts as I mark my own spectra on occaision for tuna jigging. They are missing out on a big share of the market . Probably not willing to spend the $ for the equip. required to go into a new production run of colored hollow or even non-hollow spectra ?

 

[JohnTFT]

I spoke with Jerry Brown about this at length last season. The equipment and the technology exist for making the line. The problem it that it is very costly to paint the line in the colors needed for marked PE. The other issue was the painting process may affect the ability of the line to be spliced. The painting process would tighten up the weave and not allow for a loop or line to line splice to be easily accomplished.

A successful way to splice the 2 lines together would be the best option. I have tried with mixed results. Some of the splices failed right away in testing some did not. Not enough confidence in the splice to give it to someone to fish with.

If someone has had better results it would be great to hear from them.

I have not spoke to Basil in a while about this issue. Not sure if he has had any success in making an effective splice either.

Thanks,

John

This post edited by JohnTFT 02:19 PM 03/17/2008

 

[KILSONG]

John, they don't have to paint all the lines. they can leave two - three ft unpainted on every 10 meter or 25 ft.

 

[JohnTFT]

Kilsong, I agree. There are many methods that could be devised to make a hollow core jigging line. It remains to be seen if one manufacturer will be willing to make an investment into what we would both agree is a large and growing market.

Marked Hollow Core only has upside. Smaller connection, 100% strength of the connection and the ability to repair the line if damaged are only a few of the benefits.

John

 

[Bruno1]

Whats going on John. What about a dye or stain instead of paint. Don't know if that would keep the weave from tightening up or not.

 

[chumslk]

Been marking magic braid (offshore angler) since it first became avail. with an indelible marker and now use a sharpie for the last 6-8 yrs. Mark 12"-15" every 25 or 50'. Count the marks as it comes off the spool, KISS . Have the dendoh and ygk lines and they are too busy for me + very hard to distinguish the color changes at night on a head-boat. Haven 't had any line breakage so have arrived at the conclusion that it doesen 't weaken the spectra. Biggest fish boated was a bft that dressed at 150 lbs.

 

[JohnTFT]

Steve How are you doing!

Spectra is polyethylene fibres spun together to form the line. It is plastic and does not accept dye very well and in most cases at all. It would have to be painted to get the intended effect.

I have used sharpies as well. The method I have used is a little messy but is effective. Cut the tip of sharpie in 1/2. Then run the line through the cut in the pen to achieve the intended result. It allows for quick coloring of the line on all sides. You could use the sharpie as it was designed as well just need to go around the diameter of the line.

Thanks,

John

 

[clementine]

so john,

there is no way to splice regular marked spectra into JB?

 

[chumslk]

JohnTFT wrote:
Steve How are you doing!

Spectra is polyethylene fibres spun together to form the line. It is plastic and does not accept dye very well and in most cases at all. It would have to be painted to get the intended effect.

I have used sharpies as well. The method I have used is a little messy but is effective. Cut the tip of sharpie in 1/2. Then run the line through the cut in the pen to achieve the intended result. It allows for quick coloring of the line on all sides. You could use the sharpie as it was designed as well just need to go around the diameter of the line.

Thanks,

Thanks for the tip, have been doing it the hard way a long time . Have never done anything the easy way !
John

 

[JohnTFT]

Sam - I am still trying but have not had much luck.

I have doubled the PE and spliced it in. Come in and out of the hollow core in different spots and no better results.

One connection that surprised me greatly was a simple overhand knot. Yes the knot causes both lines to lose 50% of their knot strength. But, it you are using 100# PE and 100# hollow core you are losing 50% of the combined line strength. Still in the 100# area. A drop of CA or Jerry Brown adhesive and you are good to go. Like Kilsong, I have been using the uni-uni connection with good results.

John - Make sure you have latex gloves on! It gets quite messy in multiple colors as well.

Thanks,

John

 

[clementine]

Thanks for the reply John,
Because i was thinking of getting a Saltiga 50 with JB backing, and putting dendoh line or something similar on top. i guess we could just uni - uni.

 

[06405]

JohnTFT

so the best bet for marking jerry brown would be a sharpie???

i think i will do that instead of buying the marked line.

 

[JohnTFT]

Blake - It works pretty good. Not as perfect as the color coded line but if you dont require the precision of marks every couple of meters it is a great alternative. Its not permanent and will require some re-touching from time to time but it is an option to think about since you are already using hollow core.

The downsides are it is messy, time consuming.

Give it a shot it may be a good option for you.

Thanks,

John

 

[gmann]

06405 wrote:
so the best bet for marking jerry brown would be a sharpie???

i think i will do that instead of buying the marked line.



Blake,

On Anthony's black 665 2 speed I had Basil load it with JB Hollow core and then I did the same marker technique. I cut a slice in an extra wide sharpie and ran the line through that a Big long 1' black section every 50' up to 400'