Fantastic flies Kil, I just got my shipment of Gamakatsu open eye siwash and am looking forward to spacing out at the vise and dreaming of steakers. I often let my creative juices flow BUT, I have taken a great deal of ribbing from the boys. Although I will continue to utilize flashabou,and eyes, I have come to the realization that at 200 - 300 feet down, it doesn't make much of a difference. I have even seen times when a simple Feeney fly will outfish even the most intricately tied fly. Go figure. It won't stop me, as I love to tie flies, but I will be sure to tie some simple sparse ones just to be on the safe side.