[613693]

I want to get some tips for chinkin. What rig should i use ? a fishfinder rig? should i have a retrieve to? slow or non? I always see most people just casting out and waiting. I dont think that is too affective. Any info would really help



This message was edited by great1 on 11-29-01 @ 5:23 PM

 

[615953]

Hey Great1,

I use two methods when surf fishing. I have two poles thus it makes it easier. The one pole is a simple bait rod, I cast out a nice fat chunk of bunker, herring, clam, and let it sit out there till I get a hit or 10 minutes (Whichever comes first).

The second rod, I either use to plug or jig with, or it will have a eel on the end.

I was told recently to always use a fishfinder rig, because sometimes fish can be finicky, especially since I'm usually using 4-6oz of lead to hold bottom. On the north shore I use 1-2oz, and usually won't use a fishfinder.

IMO, it all has to do with preference... It's always handy to have two rods though if you can. Sometimes just sitting there waiting for a pole to get hit gets mighty boring....

 

[615676]

JMC
Any other type of chunk bait you can use besides herring and bunker. I have been successful catching bluefish with mackrel chunks. A lot of times i get to my spot before the tackle shope is open and have to settle for the fish market the day before.

thanks
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[617078]

Circle hooks work very well for chunks, & will results in less or no gut hooking. Give them a try.

 

[615953]

Great 1,

To be honest with you, I've used many things for bait... About 2 weeks ago I was going out before the B&T opened up, so I rummaged through the freezer and found myself a old filet of Salmon. Brought it with me along with some rubber bands(The non-smelly ones.lol)... Put that stuff to work and got a couple blues and skates. I just used bunker, herring as examples. There are numerous things you can use. I've even tried using sandworms but something kept getting them before I could get them!!!!!

 

[Crazy-Al]

Hello,
There are many ways to chunking!
The type of rigs to use depends on the location and structure you fish. What do I mean by that? It?s simple? if you are planning to chunk an area where there is strong current ? you are better off sand spiking and using a fishfinder rig! Why? It keeps your offering stationed to the bottom and allows the fish to take your bait with minimal resistance.

In the event you are fishing calm waters with minimal water flow, you should try a weightless (no sinker) tactics. Simply tie a hook with a chunk and you are ready to go. However, this method is best to hold on to the rod until you feel the slighter pick up.

Other methods include free-chunking. This is basically allowing the current to take your offering to cover more grounds. You simply peel the line off your reel until you feel the fish pick up.

Other important things to know: Remember to change your bait regularly because the current will wash the juices/scent off the chunks.
In addition, It also helps to chum the area periodically by tossing small chunks around your spot. This way it will attract fish to your slick and keep them interested!

These are just a few important things you should know about chunking.

Tight Lines!

?Crazy? Alberto

 

[613693]

Crazy Al,
If i want to peel of line of my reel and let the drift iake it out, the line will go side ways and will hit the sure. What should i do?

THANKS for the info
Crazy AL, you have been very helpful

 

[Crazy-Al]

Great1,
If that?s the case, you are probably fishing a beachfront with the current going either left or right. Unfortunately the drifting (peel of line) method does not work on those conditions.
This method works best if you are fishing a point with a rip (moving current).

You are better off fishing with a fish finder rig with a pyramid sinker!

?Crazy? Alberto

 

[614459]

I fish the South Shore with a my weight of the bottom of the rig with a surgen's dropper loop in the middle of my leader were I attach the hook. I use a spinning outfit with a fairly tight drag. I caught many spripers this way. I don't like the fishfinder rig because I find there casting abilites are not as good. I find I had more drop offs with a fishfinder on free spool, then the high low rig with the tight drag. Just use sharp hooks and the fish basically hook themselves.

 

[616792]

SJ,

I disagree with the use of the high low rig with chunks.. I feel that the chunk needs to be in a natural state floating in the current.. The fish-finder rig allows it to do just that.. The H\L rig inhibits that.. I know casting is limited with the fish-finder but to me it's worth it.. If you're catching them with the semi-high\low than all the power to ya, this is just my opinion.. Floating a chunk is the absolute best way to bait fish but it's usually hard to find yourself in a situation where you can do it.. Usually a back bay or harbor to floatem.. Otherwise, it's a fish-finder rig for me..

ErikT

 

[sandman]

i use a low rig with a droper loop of 6" sink is 4" lower then droper loop.lately i add, 1'with hook and a barrel swivel to droper loop. i get bules and stripers onthis rig. with 50 lbs power-pro .ilike this better then fish finder rig.{my -.02 }

 

[Crazy-Al]

Folks,
There are many ways to chunk and it?s just a matter of preference. Some people like it with a three-way swivel, some like it with a dropper and some simply likes the fishfinder rig. To be perfectly honest with you, most rigs will work when the bass sniffs down on your offering.

However, what happens when a weary old finicky cow decides to play with your bait? I tell you what?. If that old lady decides to play? she will pick up your bait, spit it out, drag your offering and pull?. If there is any resistance, she will drop it and look for an easier meal! I?ve seeing it many time!!!

Now, I know the fish-finder rig will cut your distance but the truth of the matter is? it is the best preventive rig to fool that dream fish. Why? Because the fish-finder rig will give the necessary slack when the she decides to play with your offering.

Also, I strongly recommend a conventional outfit for chunking. It?s better for distance as well as power to horse that elusive trophy!

To me, the spinning outfit simply don?t cut it!
How many people out there agree -or- disagree with this theory? I am open for a healthy debate.

?Crazy? Alberto

 

[611906]

Free-chunking isn't used much locally---but it's a very productive method at the Cape Cod Canal, and there's no reason you couldn't use it here in places where you have current and deeper water close to shore.

The rig is very simple, almost like an eel rig. 6/0 tp 8/0 Octopus or live bait hook tied to about 36" of 50# leader, and a barrel swivel on the other end. To complete the rig, you add a 3/4 or 1 oz Rubbercore or egg sinker above the swivel---which is necessary to keep the chunk from helicoptering in the current.

This method also allows chunkers and pluggers/bucktailers to fish in greater harmony along the same stretch of rocks or shoreline.

 

[614459]

Why would you think a spinning outfit would not be able to bring in a trophy? Look at Mark Malenovsky. He caught a 64 pound striped bass with a 706Z. Need I say more.

 

[Crazy-Al]

That's a legitimate question!
I didn't say you can't, all I am saying is?if you are planning to "chunk", your odds of horsing the fish is greater with a conventional outfit. The spinning outfit does not have the appropriate leverage nor the power! The spinning outfit will stress out that trophy and you will not have the option for a healthy release.

FYI: I know Mark and he caught his trophy with a plug? not chunking.

"Crazy" Alberto
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[614459]

I agree that a conventional reel has more power in reeling in a big fish but a good spinning reel like a VS 200 could handle the fish with no problem. I was using conventional outfits when I used to use fish finder rigs, but since I use a low rig for clams and bunker, I don't need the free spool option nor do I need backlashes and wasted time while I'm fishing. As for casting, I do just fine with a spinning outrfit.

 

[616792]

Al, I agree that the conventional gives you more of what you need to turn that cow if need be but I feel pretty confident with my neptune and 10'6 Ben Doerr.. It's a med-heavy rod and matches up very nicely with the 7500 size reel.. I do agree with you though, I just haven't convinced the wife yet that I need another $500 to get setup with a conventional outfit.. haha..

ErikT

 

[613033]

We do alot of Poggy chunkin off the islands around Cape Cod from a boat. It's a in-between tide thing , basicly High or Low ...Nothing over 48" this year dunkin, but however, we spooled a few spinning reels at the middle ground...I use a ABU 6000 Tounry with a 30" flouro 20LB leader and a Sampo BB swivel. OOpps, don't forget the circle hook! I recommend you shore guy's get some fresh candy, use a hi/low rig, and sit back with a frosty! Fishin is suppose to be boring with moments of madness! IMHO.... PS Sand eels = candy..