[Steamfitter638]

Hello all,

With the new regulations out for fluke this year I got to thinking. I realize the regs say no possession allowed, but can I fish catch and release? I really just enjoy the pursuit, not so much concerned with keeping my catch. Is this legit? Or could I be fined for C&R?

 

[reelfisher]

C&R is only allow3d during the open season. The only local fish that can be targeted via C&R out of season is striped bass.

 

[Steamfitter638]

Great, yeah I should have specified the open season part. Thanks a bunch for the help. I'm sure I would have found this out one way or another (possibly through first hand experience this year

 

[kirk12]

How stupid is that rule.. just tell the DEC you are targeting SeaBass.

 

[bucktail]

But really officer, I'm just fishing for searobbins. That sounds like a good way to beat the rap.

 

[Learning2Tog]

Bucktail---check your PMs

 

[Flukinit]

How about if you just drifting bucktails w/ a squid strip. No meat just a bucktail squid combo and you get fluke. Can't you say your going for Stripers as this is a common way to go for them. The DEC has no way of proving we are targeting a specific fish I could show them 5 fishing books that says bucktail and squid/pork grind combo work for Stripers.

 

[crabman1130]

If thay observe you constantly catching fluke without moving to another location they can give you a summons.

 

[612404]

Crabman,
there are fluke all over. Even if you moved to a new location chances are that you would still be on top of fluke.
The onus is on us for sure, but you are still likely to pick up fluke while fishing for stripe bass, sea bass, blue and weak fish. The DEC is going to have to show a little consideration. Or is it their way to shut down all fishing once the fluke season ends.

 

[WetDreamz]

If they ever shut down the fluke season for the year, they should allow us to catch and release, atleast so some people will still fish, and the party boats might be able to get a few people to come out. And so all the other species of fish arent over fished like crasy.

 

[Steamfitter638]

I agree WetDreamz, the C&R should be made acceptable.....But I know with freshwater fishing you cannot fish C&R for a fish out of season

 

[fishon2407]

I MUST HAVE SLEPT THROUGH THIS ONE........

Your telling me that there is no possesion at all this year.What happened to two fish at 20 1/2"?

 

[crabman1130]

fishon2407 wrote:
Your telling me that there is no possesion at all this year.What happened to two fish at 20 1/2"?
That has not been made official yet, it is the proposal.



ibjjoe wrote:
Crabman,
there are fluke all over. Even if you moved to a new location chances are that you would still be on top of fluke.
The onus is on us for sure, but you are still likely to pick up fluke while fishing for stripe bass, sea bass, blue and weak fish. The DEC is going to have to show a little consideration. Or is it their way to shut down all fishing once the fluke season ends.

Of coures you have the chance of catching fluke in any part of the ocean. But if the DEC observes you making the same drift 3 or 4 times and catch fluke on every, that excuse will not hold water. You must make an attempt to avoind catching fluke.

Now one long drift is ok. You could say you are not targeting them.

 

[656383]

Where in the regs does it cover targeting? I only see possession

I have a fishing buddy in NJ who called the State to inquire on catch and release. He claimed they told him that the violation is possession not catch and release. Can anyone point to the regulation in NY that specifically states targeting a species as against the regs?

 

[CaptPaul]

It's the law. You'd better serve yourself, by finding one that permits it, if you intend upon trying it. Will all ECOs enforce it? Hard to say.

Paul

 

[MakoMike]

MGM67 wrote:
I have a fishing buddy in NJ who called the State to inquire on catch and release. He claimed they told him that the violation is possession not catch and release. Can anyone point to the regulation in NY that specifically states targeting a species as against the regs?

If you want to get technical about it, how are you going to release a fish wihout possessing it, even if its just for a moment?

 

[fishon2407]

I would think that as long as the fish aren't in your cooler,it's not possesion.

 

[CaptPaul]

Not in the NY interpretation of possession. That is why there is no targeted fishing permitted after you retain your limit- If you have the possession limit on board, when you reel up a keeper, you are over the possession limit.

Paul

 

[MakoMike]

fishon2407 wrote:
I would think that as long as the fish aren't in your cooler,it's not possesion.

what one earth does a cooler have to do with it. Are you not "in possession" of you fishing rod if its not in the cooler? Maybe you don't possess your cash if its not in your wallet?

 

[kirk12]

I have never once seen a DEC member in the ocean.. I'm sure they need to budget state funds when it comes to the price of gas. There is no way they have unlimited funding to zip around the ocean all day. However I see them all the time in the bay and at the ramps.