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TogMaster wrote:
bad question
This is a question that cannot be answered ? If you wreck fish and you have to anchor, and you got wind into tide any idiot knows you got a problem. If your tuna fishing or shark fishing and you got 55 deg. water your out a luck, So as you can see the question is weak it needs more direction. Every element you mentioned will effect all diffrent spieces of fish! And can also effect the diffrence between catching and jerking off. I know what the elements are before I burn the fuel that is a rule of thumb!


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Hello TogMaster,
It may be a bad and weak question to you… But the question I asked is general enough so a sharpie can elaborate and run with the direction! ;)

Although it may be simple to you… It is supposed to "educate" those that are not familiar with the basic elements such as tide, wind and temperature.

Since you are so knowledgeable and consider yourself a sharpie… Why don't you explain why a wreck fisherman would have a problem with wind against tide. Are you saying a fisherman should not venture out? Does that mean the fish are not going to bite? Or does that mean that it's going to be tough fishing?

Also, I am sure a few would be interested to know why 55 deg. water temperature would be bad for those feisty pelagic critters. Perhaps you can elaborate about the warm water temperature break… and what does that mean to the fish. :)

Hope you get my drift (no pun intended), So, let me ask the question again….

For the sharpies out there…
When you plan your killer fishing trip…
How important is TIDE, WIND and TEMP.?


The obvious answer should be …"It's VERY important"… but I expect an explanation so everyone can learn from it. ;)

Tight Lines and may the wind be on your back, the tide be just right and the temperature be warm enough for you and the fish. :)

"Crazy" Alberto
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Togmaster wrote:
…I apologize if I came across wrong and agree on how important these elements are.

But If you break it down into the type of fishing your doing verses overall I think it would be a better question that is my only point, and opinion I again I'm sorry! .. .

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Hi Togmaster

No apologies necessary! If anything, I am the one who should apologies because I was purposely asked the "general questions" so everyone can read what's on a sharpies' mind! Being that you are a sharpie of many quarries….(inshore and offshore)… Your answers are right on! The truth of the matter is… One man's perfect conditions may be horrible for others!

Below I will post two pictures (what appears to be horrible conditions) but when you look at it… It can be very productive! ;)

This picture of me shows how productive a nasty NE 50+ gust (thundering) condition can be.

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Here is another shot of me (fly-fishing) under the most tortuous "fly" conditions… ((notice: cameraman could not keep the camera steady due to the rain & gust)
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Bottom Line: A sharpie understands the conditions and can take advantage of the worse conditions and make it happen! It all depends if he/she has the will to fight it. ;)

All in all, the question that I asked is very important to those who wants to "learn" how wind, tide, current, temp. and other elements can affect the fish and the fisherman. I hope I am getting this message across…. And that everyone can benefit from it (including myself).

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Togmaster wrote:
… So there is no right and wrong to this question in my eye's. It's what works best for you at the Moment. You have to learn to adapt to all conditions and try something new when things are not working. The biggest key is know where and when the fish will be in a area.
That comes from experience my friends. I'm sure most of you have found a good spot and worked over with success. Then returned to it another day with none? That's where the good fishermen will use his instinct and knowledge to figure out what need to be done. Good luck to all and I hope I didn't bore you with my tails?
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Togmaster
Thank you for sharing some very exciting fishing tales! One thing for sure…. Based on your last paragraph, for sure, you are on top of your fishing game and I could not agree with you more!

I believe it's all depends on the individual's ability to develop a keen instinct based on their experiences (successes and fishless days). For those that are able to absorb majority of it all, will be able to maximize what the waters have to offer and ultimately be able called a sharpie.

Now, going back to the basics…. Whether you pry the suds or work the jetties, bottom fish for those feisty critters, fly for stripers to marlin, hunt down the teethy critter or seek the deep bluewater's true large…. You will encounter the following elements and obstacles…. Wind, Tide and temp. Understanding how it relates to your grounds… it will undoubtedly make you a better fisherman.

How many of you agree or disagree with these assessments?

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CheekMeat wrote:
Those are some inspiring pics you have there CA...
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Thank you CheekMeat. :) I am glad you appreciate those pictures and let me tell you… I still remember those days very well (as if it was yesterday)! Fishing under the worse conditions (Howling NE 50 knots wind and lightning/thundering weather) is NOT for everybody and downright dangerous!

spygull wrote:
When fishing inshore tide will be the most important factor in determining where and when I fish, Offshore water temp. and wind rule.
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Spygull,
I agree with your assessments 100%!

togmaster wrote:
Funny I was discussing this with some of my old time Buddies and all the old time sharpies Insist that find the bait and you'll find the fish. They claim if there isbait there forget everything else. When they're ready to bite that will be the place to be!
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Togmaster. Ditto here! With all the years of experience telling you this… How can you deny it? :)

Throughout this forum I keep preaching Bait / Structure! ;) Those are a deadly combination regardless of the conditions.

So I ask you this question…
Would you venture out in nasty conditions knowingly there is a bite somewhere? When do you know when NOT to go? Anybody wants to give this a shot?

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Togmaster,
Holy cow… That's some incredible-life-wrecking story I say.
From the looks of things… You are all right in my book and "Crazy" too. ;)

Let me ask you this, some people take calculative risks regardless… but at what point do you say no…? even when there is a strong bite somewhere….

"Crazy" Alberto
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