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Bucktails seem to work best with a slow retrieve, but a slow retrieve seems to result in numerous hang-ups at montauk. I'd be interested in hearing how others defeat this problem.
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Lighter bucktails with a little faster retrieve. Tipped with porkrind of course.
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I usually fish 1 1/2 oz white smiling bills tip with red porkrind while fishing under the light in Montauk. I increase my retrieve slightly to reduce the bucktail donations. With a little practice you should be able to get the right speed.
Only problem with tip up, is that you are not in good postition to set on the fish. The other tips are all good ones, but what I have gone by is that if you think your retrieving too slow, real slower. Bring the arsenal of bucktails and prepare for plenty of loss.
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These are all excellent bucktailing tips! As forJackson's comment about keeping the tip up… I believe he meant by keeping it at a 10 O'clock high (which that's what I do).
OK… Since there are many excellent bucktailing tips here… let me dwell a bit more.
All in all, the key is to keep your bucktail as "close to the bottom" as possible!
As for Montauk… I generally use several sizes because certain areas (and tides) dictate certain usage. For example… if you are working under the light (top of the tide) you basically need a 1 ½ oz. Bucktail… but if the tide starts to slack… you can basically drop it down to 1 oz.
However, if you work the North side… You can get away with ¾ oz. since the area is shallower.
On the other sie, the South side of Montauk it is a good idea to stick to 1 oz. Because there are lots of boulders and therefore, keeping off the bottom is critical! Should you decide to extreme it out to the outside rocks… then a 1 ½ oz. Bucktail is in order.
Also, like Windcatcher said… adding plastic trailer (curly tail)it ads buoyancy and it will allow you to work it slower.
Bottom line is, when Montauk surfcasting… A bucktail is a MUST and one needs to learn it right because it's a great fish catcher!
Tight Lines and see you all out there!
"Crazy" Alberto
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OK… Since there are many excellent bucktailing tips here… let me dwell a bit more.
All in all, the key is to keep your bucktail as "close to the bottom" as possible!
As for Montauk… I generally use several sizes because certain areas (and tides) dictate certain usage. For example… if you are working under the light (top of the tide) you basically need a 1 ½ oz. Bucktail… but if the tide starts to slack… you can basically drop it down to 1 oz.
However, if you work the North side… You can get away with ¾ oz. since the area is shallower.
On the other sie, the South side of Montauk it is a good idea to stick to 1 oz. Because there are lots of boulders and therefore, keeping off the bottom is critical! Should you decide to extreme it out to the outside rocks… then a 1 ½ oz. Bucktail is in order.
Also, like Windcatcher said… adding plastic trailer (curly tail)it ads buoyancy and it will allow you to work it slower.
Bottom line is, when Montauk surfcasting… A bucktail is a MUST and one needs to learn it right because it's a great fish catcher!
Tight Lines and see you all out there!
"Crazy" Alberto
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Yeah, I'm basically a steelhead fisherman and reservoir browns in Putnam County, but I decided this year to try the salt, as my wife bought me a Van Stall 100. I've been heading up to RI to try to catch false albies and actually got one. Would love to know where the best place around is for them. But, to my question, I drove 3 hours to Montauk last thursday night. Arrived at 2AM and sat around, not knowing where the **** I was going. Saw everybody using bucktails so I went and bought a couple, but I really don't know how to fish with them. Do you twitch them out there or just reel them in> I didn't get any fish (I think it was generally slow), but I doubt I would have gotten any, cause I didn't know what the **** I was doing. Also if I go this thursday, should I use them at night or what. What should I use is I fish the Turtle Cove side (it's a lot safer for a guy who has no corkers and ain't too swift on his feet). Enough questions, Crazy Al???
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….if I go this thursday, should I use them at night or what. What should I use is I fish the Turtle Cove side (it's a lot safer for a guy who has no corkers and ain't too swift on his feet). Enough questions, Crazy Al???
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Hello billegan
First of all… If I were to have one lure …The bucktail is it!
Bottom line is… In order to work it properly, you have to keep the bucktail (1 and 1 ½ oz tipped with pork rind or curly tails) just above the bottom!
Also, when worked properly, a bucktail is absolutely deadly at night!!!!
Now, since you mentioned Turtle Cove… I strongly recommend that you purchase some kind of surface lure like the Pencils and poppers! Simply look around and watch what the sharpies are doing… and you will know why.
One more note: If you are planning to fish Montauk often, I HIGHLY recommend that you purchase a set of corkers because you never know when you are going to be tempted to follow those blitzes along the rocky shorelines!
My advise to you is… GET IT because safety always comes first!
Hope this helps!
"Crazy" Alberto
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….if I go this thursday, should I use them at night or what. What should I use is I fish the Turtle Cove side (it's a lot safer for a guy who has no corkers and ain't too swift on his feet). Enough questions, Crazy Al???
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Hello billegan
First of all… If I were to have one lure …The bucktail is it!
Bottom line is… In order to work it properly, you have to keep the bucktail (1 and 1 ½ oz tipped with pork rind or curly tails) just above the bottom!
Also, when worked properly, a bucktail is absolutely deadly at night!!!!
Now, since you mentioned Turtle Cove… I strongly recommend that you purchase some kind of surface lure like the Pencils and poppers! Simply look around and watch what the sharpies are doing… and you will know why.
One more note: If you are planning to fish Montauk often, I HIGHLY recommend that you purchase a set of corkers because you never know when you are going to be tempted to follow those blitzes along the rocky shorelines!
My advise to you is… GET IT because safety always comes first!
Hope this helps!
"Crazy" Alberto
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Thanks Crazy Al. I decided to go to the Weekapuag Point Jetty last night in RI and I bought corkers yesterday, anticipating that I would get a "safety first" response from you. Anyway, I did well flinging eels and hooked one huge fish who took nearly all my 20lb test line, but I couldn't land him, because I didn't want to walk down on the rocks, corker or no. I think it was a big blue, but couldn't see too well as my glasses were all fogged up. Anyway, good trip and thanks so much for the jig advise. By the way, when does the albie/bonita fishing begin and end out there? Thanks again.
Bill O'C
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billegan posted:
...By the way, when does the albie/bonita fishing begin and end out there?
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Well... if you are looking to battle those speedsters...the time is now!
Work the North side (Shagwong, Gin Beach) and the South side (Browns - Caswell)! If you are wading... You have to perch on the rocks and toss tins and small poppers.
In fact, this past week, I nailed one on a polaris popper (intended for bass)!
As for this weekend... Don't know if you are going to find them (dirty water) but I am sure once the water starts to clear - You will spot them chasing rainbait!
This action should last another 2-4 weeks. As the water temperature starts to drop...concentrate the open beaches!
I also know that Shinne**** & Moriches (East) has been producing plenty of Albie action as well.
Hope this helps!
"Crazy" Alberto
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...By the way, when does the albie/bonita fishing begin and end out there?
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billegan
Well... if you are looking to battle those speedsters...the time is now!
Work the North side (Shagwong, Gin Beach) and the South side (Browns - Caswell)! If you are wading... You have to perch on the rocks and toss tins and small poppers.
In fact, this past week, I nailed one on a polaris popper (intended for bass)!
As for this weekend... Don't know if you are going to find them (dirty water) but I am sure once the water starts to clear - You will spot them chasing rainbait!
This action should last another 2-4 weeks. As the water temperature starts to drop...concentrate the open beaches!
I also know that Shinne**** & Moriches (East) has been producing plenty of Albie action as well.
Hope this helps!
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
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