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All Hands on Deck! Urgent action needed:

Send Governor Spitzer a message today;
Be our Valentine, Say No to Broadwater!

Last Friday, the Federal Government released the Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) on Broadwater. As expected, FERC gave Broadwater the green light to move forward. Now, the future of Long Island Sound lies solely in the hands of Governor Spitzer. Governor Spitzer has until February 12 to make his decision on Broadwater and decide whether or not he supports Big Oil?s interests or the Public?s interests. This is just two days before Valentine's Day. Ask Governor Spitzer not to break our hearts! His decision can come any day now, so tell him today to listen to the public and stop Broadwater!

Broadwater Energy, a joint venture between Shell Oil and TransCanada, is proposing to build an industrial Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) barge in the open waters of Long Island Sound, approximately 9 miles from Rocky Point.

How you can help!
Write handwritten Valentines (or emails: http://161.11.121.121/govemail) and call Governor Spitzer today at (51
474-8390.

Provide your name, address, and town/city;
Ask him to ?Be your Valentine and say no to Broadwater? or ?Have a heart, protect Long Island Sound; Say no to Broadwater";
Tell him you are counting on him to stand up for the public?s interests - not Big Energy?s interests!
Hon. Eliot Spitzer
NYS Governor
The Executive Chamber
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224

Also, express your opinion to your local newspaper by emailing letters to the editor. Email Newsday [[email protected]], the Hartford Courant [[email protected]], or the Journal News [[email protected]], depending on your location. Below are LTE tips:

Include your name, address, and phone number;
Keep the letter under 200 words;
Pick one or two messages and stick to them (see list above). Keep it concise.
Examples: We are counting on Governor Spitzer to stop Broadwater; Governor Spitzer needs to stand up for the public and not multi-billion dollar corporations like Shell Oil; CT Governor Rell and NY Governor Spitzer need to work together to stop the project; Broadwater?s impact on our local way of life;
Be personal. The editor should know how and why the issue affects you, your family, and your community.
Please send a quick email to show email address or to show email address with any response you receive from the Governor?s office or if your Letter to the Editor was printed. It helps us track progress on the issue.

The only way we can win on this issue is if Governor Spitzer hears from the public loud and clear.

Thank you for your action. Together we make a difference.

Sincerely,

YOUR FRIENDS AT CCE

For more information on the work of Citizens Campaign for the Environment, please visit:
http://www.citizenscampaign.org
 

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This project would allow multi-national corporations to assume control of several square miles of a local public resource.Broadwater would dramatically change Long Island Sound from an open natural resource into commercial real estate. The required ?safety zone? around the facility would no longer allow accessibility for commercial or recreational fisherman, lobstering, sailing, boating or other user activities. This potential target for a terrorist attack puts hundreds of thousands of people at risk. A terrorist attack on this facility will make 911 look small in comparison. Long Island Sound should not be for sale. Write your letters and voice you concerns loudly.
 

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Discussed in depth in this previous thread on NOREAST for those looking for some background, and the arguements pro and con in placing a floating platform in Long Island Sound:

Natural gas terminal 20 miles off NJ Coast

I would not count on our governor here in New York turning this project down and refusing to sign off on the permits. This is about BIG MONEY (billions), BIG INTERESTS (oil and gas companies), and big dollars for the New York state economy and general tax collection fund.

Sad that something like this can come so close to our shores here in New York.

EC NEWELL MAN><
 

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also don't forget the billions of gallons of sound water, processed, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. The place will be a lifeless estuary in a few short years of heavy chlorination... but they'll give you 25 bucks a month to buy your seafood instead. Imported chinese sea food.
 

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also don't forget the billions of gallons of sound water, processed, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. The place will be a lifeless estuary in a few short years of heavy chlorination... but they'll give you 25 bucks a month to buy your seafood instead. Imported chinese sea food.


they have ways of treating the water so theres no chlorine released into the water
 

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STRIKERTHREE wrote:
likeitreallyis wrote:
also don't forget the billions of gallons of sound water, processed, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. The place will be a lifeless estuary in a few short years of heavy chlorination... but they'll give you 25 bucks a month to buy your seafood instead. Imported chinese sea food.


they have ways of treating the water so theres no chlorine released into the water

They don't know how. They have said that the water will be purified, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound...

Fresh water with fish larva, crustaceans, plankton, etc. in, chlorinated water out. Maybe you could tell them your way, if the foreigners who own the rig even care. The water is fine over where they live, thousands of miles across the ocean.
 

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commfish wrote:
Can the mods make this sticky...This is monster!! if approved it will have major negative impacts!!!

But the little old lady will now be able to stay on Long Island with her $25 monthly check.. LIPA to the rescue


This post edited by likeitreallyis 03:58 PM 02/04/2008
 

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likeitreallyis wrote:
STRIKERTHREE wrote:
likeitreallyis wrote:
also don't forget the billions of gallons of sound water, processed, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. The place will be a lifeless estuary in a few short years of heavy chlorination... but they'll give you 25 bucks a month to buy your seafood instead. Imported chinese sea food.


they have ways of treating the water so theres no chlorine released into the water

They don't know how. They have said that the water will be purified, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound...

Fresh water with fish larva, crustaceans, plankton, etc. in, chlorinated water out. Maybe you could tell them your way, if the foreigners who own the rig even care. The water is fine over where they live, thousands of miles across the ocean.

thats what I am talking about it will have about as much chlorine in it as your drinking water its kinda like a reverse osmosis type of treatment not very high levels of chlorine will be dumped into the water I seen how they do it at a presentation at work
 

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STRIKERTHREE wrote:
likeitreallyis wrote:
STRIKERTHREE wrote:
likeitreallyis wrote:
also don't forget the billions of gallons of sound water, processed, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. The place will be a lifeless estuary in a few short years of heavy chlorination... but they'll give you 25 bucks a month to buy your seafood instead. Imported chinese sea food.


they have ways of treating the water so theres no chlorine released into the water

They don't know how. They have said that the water will be purified, chlorinated and dumped back into the sound...

Fresh water with fish larva, crustaceans, plankton, etc. in, chlorinated water out. Maybe you could tell them your way, if the foreigners who own the rig even care. The water is fine over where they live, thousands of miles across the ocean.

thats what I am talking about it will have about as much chlorine in it as your drinking water its kinda like a reverse osmosis type of treatment not very high levels of chlorine will be dumped into the water I seen how they do it at a presentation at work

It will be lifeless water... from life filled water....

doesn't take much at all to change the pH... who knows what they are going to do and it is a shame we spent billions to clean it up only to have some foreign oil company dump a giant tank to store thier foreign gas to be used for Connecticut and NYC's needs in the LI sound. How stupid does that sound?

DOMESTIC natural gas is a great alternative if needed. 2 smaller facilities in CT, 1 in NYC, and 1 for LI.....
 

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Today's news..

STATE COLLEGE, Pennsylvania (AP) -- More than a mile beneath an area of Appalachia covering parts of four states lies a mostly untapped reservoir of natural gas that could swell U.S. reserves.

Geologists and energy companies have known for decades about the gas in the Marcellus Shale, but only recently have figured out a possible -- though expensive -- way to extract it from the thick black rock about 6,000 feet underground.

Like prospectors mining for gold, energy executives must decide whether the prize is worth the huge investment.

"This is a very real prospect, very real," said Stephen Rhoads, president of the Pennsylvania Oil and Gas Association. "This could be a very significant year for this."

The shale holding the best prospects covers an area of 54,000 square miles, from upstate New York, across Pennsylvania into eastern Ohio and across most of West Virginia -- a total area bigger than the state of Pennsylvania.

It could contain as much as 50 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas, according to a recent study by researchers at Penn State University and the State University of New York at Fredonia.

The United States produces about 19 trillion cubic feet of gas a year, so the Marcellus field would be a boon if new drilling technology works, Penn State geoscientist Terry Engelder said.

"The value of this science could increment the net worth of U.S. energy resources by a trillion dollars, plus or minus billions," he said.

Big bills for heat

The average consumer price for natural gas in the United States is forecast to rise 78 percent between heating seasons, which last from October to March. Prices will go from $7.45 to $13.32 per thousand cubic feet this season, according to the federal Energy Information Administration.

That translates into higher bills for gas customers to heat their homes, with the average season bill nearly doubling during the same period from $465 to $884.

One of the main players in Pennsylvania, Range Resources Corp. of Fort Worth, Texas, has roughly 4,700 wells statewide -- though it's the results from five new horizontal wells in southwestern Pennsylvania that have company executives especially hopeful.

The company, in a December financial report, estimated that two horizontal wells are producing roughly 4.6 million cubic feet of gas per day. Tests on an additional three recently completed horizontal wells showed potential for a total of 12.7 million cubic feet of gas per day. Industry experts call those results promising.

"We're extremely encouraged. We see many viable parts of the Marcellus that will be commercial," said Range Senior Vice President Rodney Waller.
 

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The natural gas we have now comes from New mexico and Canada they have know about the Appilacians for awhile the process to extract the gas is to expensive cost out weighting profit thats why it hasnt been done or be done in the hear future
 

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There Will Be Blood

There's an ocean of natural gas under our feet and nobody can get to it except for me!

I agree. I think Long Island Sound is too fragile an environment for this thing. Also having another large object out there might not be too bright (unless it's lit up like a Christmas tree using more energy). More home grown exploration sounds like the way to go.
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Explosion, Fire At Natural Gas Pumping Station

A massive fire erupted at a natural gas pumping station in a rural area northeast of Nashville, and Highway Patrol authorities said there were an undetermined number of fatalities.

Officials weren't sure what started the fire late Tuesday at the Columbia Gulf Natural Gas pumping station near the Macon County community of Green Grove, about 40 miles from Nashville.

"We do not know at this time what caused it, and we are attempting to get close enough to get some information," said Tennessee Emergency Management spokesman Donnie Smith. "These flames are shooting 400, 500 feet in the air."

Tennessee Highway Patrol spokesman Mike Browning said the station could have been damaged by a line of severe storms that moved through Tennessee shortly before the fire broke out. The weather system also spawned tornadoes that killed at least eight people Tuesday.

Kelly Merritt, a spokesman for Columbia Gulf Transmission Co., confirmed the fire at the company's Hartsville compressor station but said he didn't have any more details.

Merritt said the company is shutting off the gas on both sides of the station, which is used to boost pressure along the gas line that runs from Louisiana to the West Virginia-Kentucky border.

Merritt said the station is not manned around the clock.

Columbia is a subsidiary of Merrillville, Ind.-based NiSource Inc.

Westmoreland Mayor Ricky Woodard said the fire was about seven miles away from his city, started around 10 p.m. and spread to houses nearby. He said casualties have been reported in Macon County and several people are reported missing.

"It's got the whole sky lit up," Woodard said. "You can see it in Kentucky."

Wilson County Sheriff Terry Ashe said he had 10 emergency units headed to the area.



 

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Explosion, Fire At Natural Gas Pumping Station

A massive fire erupted at a natural gas pumping station in a rural area northeast of Nashville, and Highway Patrol authorities said there were an undetermined number of fatalities.

Officials weren't sure what started the fire late Tuesday at the Columbia Gulf Natural Gas pumping station near the Macon County community of Green Grove, about 40 miles from Nashville.

"We do not know at this time what caused it, and we are attempting to get close enough to get some information," said Tennessee Emergency Management spokesman Donnie Smith. "These flames are shooting 400, 500 feet in the air."

Tennessee Highway Patrol spokesman Mike Browning said the station could have been damaged by a line of severe storms that moved through Tennessee shortly before the fire broke out. The weather system also spawned tornadoes that killed at least eight people Tuesday.

Kelly Merritt, a spokesman for Columbia Gulf Transmission Co., confirmed the fire at the company's Hartsville compressor station but said he didn't have any more details.

Merritt said the company is shutting off the gas on both sides of the station, which is used to boost pressure along the gas line that runs from Louisiana to the West Virginia-Kentucky border.

Merritt said the station is not manned around the clock.

Columbia is a subsidiary of Merrillville, Ind.-based NiSource Inc.

Westmoreland Mayor Ricky Woodard said the fire was about seven miles away from his city, started around 10 p.m. and spread to houses nearby. He said casualties have been reported in Macon County and several people are reported missing.

"It's got the whole sky lit up," Woodard said. "You can see it in Kentucky."

Wilson County Sheriff Terry Ashe said he had 10 emergency units headed to the area.


That can happen right that is a transmission main there all over Long Island and NYC
 

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Dear Friends,

The News 12 Long Island Talks show (Topic-Broadwater) with CCE's Adrienne Esposito and Shell Oil CEO John Hofmeister has been cancelled. Mr. Hofmeister decided to pull out this afternoon and not participate in the debate that was scheduled for tonight at 7:00PM. Therefore, phone calls into the show are not needed for tonight.

Today, Adrienne and CCE staff are meeting with Governor Spitzer in Albany on the Broadwater proposal. CCE will keep you informed as the campaign to stop Broadwater progresses.

Thank you for your dedication to stopping Broadwater. Together we make a difference.

Sincerely,

YOUR FRIENDS AT CCE



 
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