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...Who likes 'em and why? Over Andrus, why? Over Spro, why?
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Well, first off the two tackle shops near me stock them so that has something to do with it. Availability of a well made product is sometimes limited. Neither of them stock Andrus, although I do use the one for jetty fishing with the extra hair on it. They seem to sink at a slower rate and also have a larger profile. When peanuts are around these work well.
The thing I like about them, as with most, is the swing hook. It gives the trailer a bit more of a lifelike flutter. The hooks are replaceable also. If you have a bit of rust on it or it has been sharpened one too many times you can just cut them off and crimp on a new open eye hook. This makes it so you can change hook size and quality if you want also.
I do not use Spro bucktails at all. I have had a hook snap on me while pulling in a fish. Of course it was the biggest fish I ever had on
. I went home after that and was actually able to break off a hook with my hands. Since then I just don't trust them.
The thing I like about them, as with most, is the swing hook. It gives the trailer a bit more of a lifelike flutter. The hooks are replaceable also. If you have a bit of rust on it or it has been sharpened one too many times you can just cut them off and crimp on a new open eye hook. This makes it so you can change hook size and quality if you want also.
I do not use Spro bucktails at all. I have had a hook snap on me while pulling in a fish. Of course it was the biggest fish I ever had on
. I went home after that and was actually able to break off a hook with my hands. Since then I just don't trust them.Never used them. I generally use Andrus. But, I will say, without ever having used Blue Frog. I already like them better than Spro.
IMO Spro are garbage. I have had and also know several people who have had hooks snap on them.
A well presented jig beats a fancy looking jig any day.
IMO Spro are garbage. I have had and also know several people who have had hooks snap on them.
A well presented jig beats a fancy looking jig any day.
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i became a huge bluefrog fan last year...for one the finish on them last even after whackin a few rocks.. i think the swinging hook actually give you a better chance of landing the fish if you cant turn it.. i also use the Andrus bucktails also very nice hooks but the barbs require some sqooshing..i use the andrus on jetty's and blue frogs at Mtk
Spro's ive never had issues with the hooks but they do seem to be weak. reason i steared away from them is the lead just seems to soft and that fancy looking bucktail that you just bought will look like a tootsie roll after 5 retrieves over rocks...
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Spro's ive never had issues with the hooks but they do seem to be weak. reason i steared away from them is the lead just seems to soft and that fancy looking bucktail that you just bought will look like a tootsie roll after 5 retrieves over rocks...
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I just picked up a pair of these on Monday morning (3/4 oz, 1 oz) both in white. I plan on working them this coming weekend. I love that they have the detachable hooks. We will see what they do on the jetty this coming weekend.
I just picked up a pair of these on Monday morning (3/4 oz, 1 oz) both in white. I plan on working them this coming weekend. I love that they have the detachable hooks. We will see what they do on the jetty this coming weekend.
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blue frogs and unch josh are both good but blue frogs are DEF built better then uncle josh.i just laugh at people when they are using spro bucktails they wont be catching anything and id have a bluefrog on or a uncle josh and would be getting almost everycast.
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OK,here's my thought on spro's,I luv em in the right situation,a ripping current in deep water they will out perform any buc on the market,gauranteed.
For the guys who are snapping the new hooks,loosen your drag,The old hooks on the other hand are without a doubt weak.But its been 2 yrs since the old hooks & there is no possible way shops still have them.(possible,yes)Spros are the best "swimming" buc in current you will ever find.The hair on the other hand is not tied well at all,but that changes on every buc.But when the guy next to you can't hold with a 5oz smiling bill, a 4oz spro will hold 10X's better.
Here's a spro that has seen over 50 fish this season & is ready for new hair.Hook held up fine for me.I like spro's & thats just me.
OK,here's my thought on spro's,I luv em in the right situation,a ripping current in deep water they will out perform any buc on the market,gauranteed.
For the guys who are snapping the new hooks,loosen your drag,The old hooks on the other hand are without a doubt weak.But its been 2 yrs since the old hooks & there is no possible way shops still have them.(possible,yes)Spros are the best "swimming" buc in current you will ever find.The hair on the other hand is not tied well at all,but that changes on every buc.But when the guy next to you can't hold with a 5oz smiling bill, a 4oz spro will hold 10X's better.
Here's a spro that has seen over 50 fish this season & is ready for new hair.Hook held up fine for me.I like spro's & thats just me.
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Blue frogs worked for me with bass and fluke (boat), same with Andrus. The good thing about Andrus is the hook. I now tie my own smilin bills and catch most of my fish on them.
For those that like the Spro jig and not the hook you can buy the mold and drill to accept 8/0 hooks, hardly a worry after that.
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For those that like the Spro jig and not the hook you can buy the mold and drill to accept 8/0 hooks, hardly a worry after that.
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i pour my own and have far too many jig molds... its seems the best fishing fast water jig ive found is the old school upperman lima bean in red/white.. fluking i like the do-it earball with a lightly dressed open eye gami
I don't care for blue frogs due to the head profile-Way to sticky in rocky areas, and I hate swing hooks. When the bite is on you waste alot of time unhooking. Rigid hooks are out in one simple trained motion. Less time wasted and gets the fish back faster. I don't care for Spro either. Had bad experiences and not interested in trying em again. As far as finish goes, I could care less. I am more interested in hair density and color. The color of the head don't matter-I doesn't last anyway.
SRFRAT-- in response to your answer about loosening drag. Yes, I'm sure this plays some part in the hook breaking for some people.
But, I can tell you I have had hooks break on Spro's in situations where it shouldn't have. Not too tight a drag or too big a fish. Just lack of quality.
I also know Spro has changed the hook on their jigs but...Confidence is now and issue for me. I have NO confidence in Spro jigs.
Again though, this is another situation of "to each his own"
But, I can tell you I have had hooks break on Spro's in situations where it shouldn't have. Not too tight a drag or too big a fish. Just lack of quality.
I also know Spro has changed the hook on their jigs but...Confidence is now and issue for me. I have NO confidence in Spro jigs.
Again though, this is another situation of "to each his own"
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Surfrat and Blasko are fine fisherman some of the best around.. Pay attention to what they are saying as the head as surfrat mention does indeed grab better in the current, but I am more on Blasko's side of the fence with the old school straight hooks from the surf anyway, however bluefrogs have thir place on boats, they do seem to have a better hookup ratio..
Never liked the spros but haven't seen the new hooks yet, I've always been a smilin bill guy mostly and they work fine for me, but I've seen bullfrogs outfish them on boats particularly, being this is the surf thread, I like the smilin bills.
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Surfrat and Blasko are fine fisherman some of the best around.. Pay attention to what they are saying as the head as surfrat mention does indeed grab better in the current, but I am more on Blasko's side of the fence with the old school straight hooks from the surf anyway, however bluefrogs have thir place on boats, they do seem to have a better hookup ratio..
Never liked the spros but haven't seen the new hooks yet, I've always been a smilin bill guy mostly and they work fine for me, but I've seen bullfrogs outfish them on boats particularly, being this is the surf thread, I like the smilin bills.
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Compliments make me blush. Thankfully I am still thoroughly disliked around here. As far as Spro hooks go, I am of the opinion they have failed me in the past, why give them another chance? I don't care if they were improved, should have been right from the get, if ya ask me, most expensive bucks around. I loose confidence in something, its over-just like suffix braid-I know plenty who swear by it, but I won't try it again. Besides, I have plenty of 5oz and can connect while srfrat is fishing a 4oz Spro. You can keep em. When it comes to fluking, the blue frogs kick ass. They also have a 1.5oz sea robin pattern which I love for certain areas.
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When you guys stick to the topics and offer insights I'm all ears.. however being of the solitary in the dark mindset sometimes the people skills take a hit
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it's all good. I am no expert at all and I crave other people's insights especially ones who I know know what they are doing..
Myself I am no Bass hunter. I'm a fisherman. If it swims, I target it at all times of the year. (Bass too
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, but for bucktails, even fluking, it's always been smilin bills... I like pink for fluke and even with the bigger limits they still like them
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Now if I could just find those "salty dogs" we used to catch weakfish with
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Myself I am no Bass hunter. I'm a fisherman. If it swims, I target it at all times of the year. (Bass too
Now if I could just find those "salty dogs" we used to catch weakfish with
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Huh? Did I question anyones fishing ability or knowledge?
Not at all. I was making a comment on a product that I have had bad experiences with.
Don't really care how good Spro's hold in deep fast moving water. I still will not use them. They are OVERPRICED junk.
Again this is really a matter of preference and confidence.
A friend of mine pours his own shad head jigs like the Spro's but uses a much better Mustad hook. Not sure of the model #
I do use them as well.
Huh? Did I question anyones fishing ability or knowledge?
Not at all. I was making a comment on a product that I have had bad experiences with.
Don't really care how good Spro's hold in deep fast moving water. I still will not use them. They are OVERPRICED junk.
Again this is really a matter of preference and confidence.
A friend of mine pours his own shad head jigs like the Spro's but uses a much better Mustad hook. Not sure of the model #
I do use them as well.
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you came across as shooting down someone's offered opinion, that's all.. you can agree or disagree no problem, but often these informative threads take on a bit of squabbling over something stupid just trying to nip this in the bud that's all.. When these guys stay on topic some of the advise offered is priceless.
What part....LOL....
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you came across as shooting down someone's offered opinion, that's all.. you can agree or disagree no problem, but often these informative threads take on a bit of squabbling over something stupid just trying to nip this in the bud that's all.. When these guys stay on topic some of the advise offered is priceless.
likeitreallyis wrote:
you came across as shooting down someone's offered opinion, that's all.. you can agree or disagree no problem, but often these informative threads take on a bit of squabbling over something stupid just trying to nip this in the bud that's all.. When these guys stay on topic some of the advise offered is priceless.
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Now if I could just find those "salty dogs" we used to catch weakfish with
look and he shall find. i have not done too good with them though lately.
frank bluefrog makes quite few different profiles lately.
i have snapped the old spros just slightly snagging the bottom. defintiely was not a locked up drag. i fish the drag on the lighter side when fishing braid. (was the older spros).
Now if I could just find those "salty dogs" we used to catch weakfish with
look and he shall find.
i have not done too good with them though lately. frank bluefrog makes quite few different profiles lately.
i have snapped the old spros just slightly snagging the bottom. defintiely was not a locked up drag. i fish the drag on the lighter side when fishing braid. (was the older spros).
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Tide haven't had much luck with anything with the weaks since May..
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