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so tell me oh great wisemen:

1.) do blackfish bite at night??
if so, same bait as day .. crabs??

2.) will they be around the docks to catch during the winter??
do the big 'uns hang around also??

seriously searching,
 

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Hi,

What is the largest black your diver friends have seen in the wrecks?

I have heard some outrageous size stories from divers I have spoken to. They claim to have seen blacks so big they just stay tucked in their home and can barely move. They say up to 30 lbs. Hmmmmmmmmm????

That would be some "ole white chin".

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Capt, wouldn't call em friends, but, as you said, they tell of some quite large specimens around the snags. One claimed he had speared a 20# brute and missed one that was alot larger.

Always kicking the idea around on learning to scuba dive, maybe one day I'll take the plunge ;)
 

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A good one

I would call it a fluke more then a steady bite. But once while I was worming by breezy jetty I hooked a nice fish. The thing faught better then a bass after getting it boat side it was 9:00pm and I had a 14 lbs tog on a worm in the ****pit of the boat. Man I was with my buddy Ralphie from the Odessy. I wonder if he remebers that one? So I understand they do sleep at night but maybe it was a late night snack? Never had the answer to that one?
 

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Hi,

Everytime I anchored on a wreck I would day dream about what the piece looks like and where on the piece the fish were.

Now they have tv cameras you can lower to the bottom. Man, would I love to play with one of them. I wonder how clear a picture we could get?

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It is known among the pinhookers that in the late fall and winter, blackfish will turn on and even bite ferociously into the dark, then shut down. In the mornings, we do not see the blackfish start to bite till the sun breaks the horizon. One theory is that blackfish and even codfish, will move onto structure during the night hours, possibly for security, possibly for food, or both.

Blackfish start to move offshore as the waters cool in the fall...a better indicator is the 'turning of colors' of the leaves, which usually coincides with the start of the migration of blackfish offshore. We know from local lobster potters in the area, that blackfish will move into the deep channels of the Lower and Upper Harbor of New York where water depths reach over 60 feet. During our warmer winters, these fish never leave these channel areas, and lay almost in a semi doormant state. They will not be caught near shore around docks. But, from one of the local draggers we heard stories of blackfish being caught by net in December around the Manhattan Beach reef which is only 15 feet of water!

And one indicator on which size blackfish move offshore first, it is the larger fish which move off. followed by the smaller fish. That is why when you fish certain areas like Scotland or Sea Bright in December you may hit a spot, and it holds numerous small fish. Then as you move off to the deeper waters on New Grounds and 17 fathoms, the size of the fish noticeably increases.

EC NEWELL MAN*
 
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