First I would like to wish everyone a happy and healthy holiday season. The reason why I made this post is to find out if blackfish/ling/mackeral are available at the cholera banks from late december into early january. I know they are at 17 but I have only a 24 footer and want to stay a little closer to home. Thanx in adavance.
Blackfish at Cholera?
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I haven't found them there that late
Not that I've found. We fish them pretty heavily at Cholera from late Oct to about Thanksgiving and do quite well, but typically after Thanksgiving the water cools to the point that the fish move off a bit.
I know there are those that fish tog on the inshore reefs (25' shallower than Cholera in some cases) into December, but for consistancy over the past 8 years or so, 17 has Cholera beaten hands down after Thanksgiving.
That having been said, even though I ran my boat down to 17 twelve times last Winter between Thanksgiving and Jan 15, my personal best fish as well as the biggest fish on my boat over the past 6 seasons came from Cholera, the weekend before Thanksgiving last year - 11lbs 4oz.
So you CAN catch the biggies there.
rgds, Leprechaun
Not that I've found. We fish them pretty heavily at Cholera from late Oct to about Thanksgiving and do quite well, but typically after Thanksgiving the water cools to the point that the fish move off a bit.
I know there are those that fish tog on the inshore reefs (25' shallower than Cholera in some cases) into December, but for consistancy over the past 8 years or so, 17 has Cholera beaten hands down after Thanksgiving.
That having been said, even though I ran my boat down to 17 twelve times last Winter between Thanksgiving and Jan 15, my personal best fish as well as the biggest fish on my boat over the past 6 seasons came from Cholera, the weekend before Thanksgiving last year - 11lbs 4oz.
So you CAN catch the biggies there.
rgds, Leprechaun
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Cholera Tog
I agree with Leprechaun I have fished as late as the first week of December out there and have had some decent sometimes very good togging to no more than 8 pounds with many between 2-4 pounds plus straggler small cod we had 3, two years ago between 5- 7 pounds December 5th. My experience is the fish there are smaller on average than the 17 brutes but the bottom is real fertile generally lots of action, VERY LITTLE SLOW PERIODS, you should catch tog dinner at least through early December.
The only time I fish 17 is with soemone else as my boat has been put to bed.
Boating out of Jones Inlet TO Cholera is like 7 or so miles a shorter run than 17 but you have a different problem. You have no lee other than a dead on north wind still traverses about 9 miles over open H20 : a west wind, a NW wind and a SW wind provides quite a fetch 20 miles plus over open water so though a shorter ride than 17 you have no nearby land mass New Jersey the NY Bight breaking the seas. A steady 15 out of the nw will give you a tight 3-4', hit 20 just about any direction will hit 5 feet perhaps a little higher, fishable but tough for tog, especially if you are fishing there late in the season not alot of people out there if you get hung up.
Take a look at one of those maps and you will see more clearly than ever what I am trying to get at, see you Gary.
I agree with Leprechaun I have fished as late as the first week of December out there and have had some decent sometimes very good togging to no more than 8 pounds with many between 2-4 pounds plus straggler small cod we had 3, two years ago between 5- 7 pounds December 5th. My experience is the fish there are smaller on average than the 17 brutes but the bottom is real fertile generally lots of action, VERY LITTLE SLOW PERIODS, you should catch tog dinner at least through early December.
The only time I fish 17 is with soemone else as my boat has been put to bed.
Boating out of Jones Inlet TO Cholera is like 7 or so miles a shorter run than 17 but you have a different problem. You have no lee other than a dead on north wind still traverses about 9 miles over open H20 : a west wind, a NW wind and a SW wind provides quite a fetch 20 miles plus over open water so though a shorter ride than 17 you have no nearby land mass New Jersey the NY Bight breaking the seas. A steady 15 out of the nw will give you a tight 3-4', hit 20 just about any direction will hit 5 feet perhaps a little higher, fishable but tough for tog, especially if you are fishing there late in the season not alot of people out there if you get hung up.
Take a look at one of those maps and you will see more clearly than ever what I am trying to get at, see you Gary.
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How far a run is it to 17 from Jones inlet? Lou
How far a run is it to 17 from Jones inlet? Lou
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Running to 17 Tommorrow?
Lep,
Are you making the run tomm? Looks like its going to be nice. I will be out, making the run from Debs on a 28' BHM.
Lep,
Are you making the run tomm? Looks like its going to be nice. I will be out, making the run from Debs on a 28' BHM.
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Yep, I'll be there
TnF - Yes, we're going tomorrow. I'll be down there with my Shamrock 26 Ragtop - give a shout on 68 and I'll answer.
BHM 28, ha? I've got a friend over on the Shamrock owner's board that just sold his Shammie 20 and went to contract on the Seaworthy 28, I'm sure you know what that is, and was.
Here's the link in which I try to give him some advice as best I can, but maybe you could jump in at my invitation to offer direct owner experience and council? I would regard it as a favor. Gotta read down a bit to get to the good stuff:
New Bhm 28(Seaworthy 28 owner)
Of course I am ASS-uming that you own the boat.
Blackfish - the bottom at 17 is BOTH flat/crusty and has prominent outcroppings - you should have no problem finding appropriate bottom to set up on. DO NOT mug another boat, it has created some serious issues down there, I have a friend with a large Downeaster that pitched some 8 oz sinkers right thru the windshield of another boat last Winter for this type of humping. There's plenty of bottom for everybody to find their own spot without crowding.
rgds, Leprechaun
TnF - Yes, we're going tomorrow. I'll be down there with my Shamrock 26 Ragtop - give a shout on 68 and I'll answer.
BHM 28, ha? I've got a friend over on the Shamrock owner's board that just sold his Shammie 20 and went to contract on the Seaworthy 28, I'm sure you know what that is, and was.
Here's the link in which I try to give him some advice as best I can, but maybe you could jump in at my invitation to offer direct owner experience and council? I would regard it as a favor. Gotta read down a bit to get to the good stuff:
New Bhm 28(Seaworthy 28 owner)
Of course I am ASS-uming that you own the boat.
Blackfish - the bottom at 17 is BOTH flat/crusty and has prominent outcroppings - you should have no problem finding appropriate bottom to set up on. DO NOT mug another boat, it has created some serious issues down there, I have a friend with a large Downeaster that pitched some 8 oz sinkers right thru the windshield of another boat last Winter for this type of humping. There's plenty of bottom for everybody to find their own spot without crowding.
rgds, Leprechaun
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