LooneyTunes wrote:
nzajoe wrote:
http://www.ssfff.net/index.html go now
Nice to see that there is another organization out there (like RFA). If we keep splintering we will never be able to focus enough funds in one area. If you have 30 groups going in the same general direction but doing it there way, a lot of money will be wasted. Here is where the term "aggregate" is applicable
. Support one or two major organizations. They already have a war chest building and have established contacts. The continued splintering removes money from bigger organizations and makes them less effective.
There is a lot of divisiveness in the rec community, always has been. Many CCA members want nothing to do with RFA. Many RFA members want nothing to do with ASA. Not to mention that ASA,CCA,RFA, ABC, pick an acronym, often don't work together. By affiliating themselves with any one organization only alienates those who may belong to another.
The .net is because .com was taken (owned by a domain broker) and the domain was purchased within several hours of the group coming up with the name, long before the designation as a non-profit in the state of NJ was acquired.
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ALSO,
Your site states that you are a NON-PROFIT ORG Do you have a charter?
Why aren't you using .org Anybody can buy a .com .net etc. BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN PURCHASE A .ORG are the ones that can prove that status.
What state are you registered as a non-profit organization?
See above for that answer.
Lastly, "I" am not using anything. I am not on the Board of Directors nor do I have anything to do with the actual organization itself (meaning bank accounts, charters, bylaws, whatever)
I bought the URL because I could, it was available, and I host and maintain the website for free through my business hosting as part of my contribution to the group. I also paid for everything out of my own pocket to save the group $$ as well.
SSFFF is a one trick pony. Fluke, the whole fluke and nothing but the fluke so help us fluke.
When this issue is over, so is the group.
In the vast combined experience of all those involved it is readily apparent that any large organization in the rec community can only accomplish so much on any one issue. Most every time one of the aforementioned acronyms has tried to focus on but one issue, those who did or do not care about that particular coast, species or area get pissed that their money is going to something they have no interest in. Large organizations often cannot, and will not, use all their resources on a single issue at a time. Partly because there is typically more than one thing happening at a time and partly because different members/contributors want different things to be addressed, and most are not willing to sacrifice one to allow all efforts to be devoted to another.
By having no affiliation with ANY other group, but working with EVERY other group that exists and is willing to work with them, these problems disappear (at least to a large extent.)
This is evidenced by the fact that RFA is where some monies/effort devoted to the MSA side of things is going (they have a permanent presence in D.C. and a proven track record) while at the same time ASA is on-board and has offered to try and raise funds (which is something they excel at along with their long track record of pushing for good science)
We could certainly purchase the .org at this stage, but is it really needed? Again, the website existed before the organization officially did. Since this started in NJ it was registered there.
This post edited by CaptTB 12:30 PM 01/24/2008
