Hey springman26, you're right these wooden lures are the premier wooden lure on the surf. I've fished them for many years and found them to outperform almost all of the other wooden lures,including Gibbs, which by the way hasn't performed recently like the older Gibbs plugs. Habs plugs are the only other wooden plugs which may, at times outperform a Beachmaster and he's limited to making mostly poppers and needlefish, although I heard that he's coming out with a metal liped swimmer soon. Causeway B&T on Merrick Rd has the large atom 40's. Bernie's B&T on Emmons Ave. in Brooklyn also carries a selection of the Beachmaster plugs including a 2oz. Danny but be prepared to pay top dollar.