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Well yesterday was an off work day so Ec, Mattyblazer, and myself decided on a little get together. Mattie has 2 sx Avet reels 1 with the power handle and one the regular. Upon looking at his reels I noticed the free spool was not working correctly like the video and his Blue one was binding like mine. So we jumped into it and I opened his up upon his approval. Well was I impressed. The reel is machined to perfection. I did take apart the reel with using a slot screw driver and 2 screws is all you need to acess the inside parts. The spool has a threaded rod and the Cross locks into the side plate by a notched cut out which holds the main spindle for the drag pressure. The drag to my surprise was a n ht100 exact material. It is most likely a Penn drag with out a doubt. The 4/0 size to be exact. The reel spool is centered Bal. by small stainless washers which is put on both sides of the main spindle to get an even center point of the spool. This is where I noticed Mattie?s problem. The washers were not seated correctly and had thick grease on them.
So I lined up the washers centered the spool and wiped off all the excess grease and used reelx which comes with a small tube in the box. Then seated the center spindle and cleaned the grease off both bearings on the sides of the spindle. I put the reel back and it was awesome. Both Ec and Matt agreed so it was on to the next one with the binding problem. I did find grease and a piece of the Ht100 material hanging over the pressure plate. I took matt?s knife and trim it cleaned the grease and reel x the parts. Put it back together and it was awesome. I still feel a little bind but not that noticeable! These reels are machined so tight that the littlest dirt or grease will affect them. If they are sealed up correctly and lubed! They work great. Now I cannot wait to field test them. Guess when I go to FLA. I?ll get the early worm on them. Also The Rep from NJ contacted me and was hoping he could answer some of your questions about the reels. Ok George we are all ears. 1 thing I must point out. I have many light rods with the 16 Fuji trigger seats and the SX will not fit them. Do you make a smaller footing? I need one if so? I don?t want to file down the footing. Another point is the power handle on the SX. I don?t like it! I find it too big for the reel and it throws the small body SX off BAL in a sense so I think the plain old handle is fine. But I think I will try and round the corners instead of squared I prefer a rounded handle like the Trinidad?s Let you know how I make out
 

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AVET drag material

Just wanted to mention that Penn will not supply HT-100 to another reel manufacturer. So, AVET had to find/make their own material.

Also, your mention of the washers being out of wack is interesting - are you refering to "cupped" washers that act as springs?

There should be no "binding" in those reels at all it should work like a swiss watch.
 

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Interesting!

After a w/e of rod building... Just so happened to open my Avet reels up yesterday too. Yes, they are machined very tightly, but were still operating very smoothly after a few trips out. Still waiting for my wife to make up her mind on which digital camera she wants to get some pic posted of the reels.

Anyway, since the spool is connected to the sideplate (Handle side) when you re- assemble the reel you need to align the pin in the shaft to fit in the opposite side plate so that it closes up. I found that if you aligned the pin with the two (2) screw holes the reel went back together much easier! Just something to note when servicing the reel.

Regards... Capt. Fred
 

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Which Camera to get

Capt.xxx I would suggest getting a Canon. i have had many camers and the Canon's just take great pictures. Nowe i own a powershot 230 and love it. It is small and easy to use and the pictures are excellent. Doughboy just got a nice canon and is very hapy with it also.My frind had the nikon and my other buddy has the Olympus, And i still find the Canon tops. Just some adive your choice is the final word Good luck :)
 

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Canon Cameras

Knowing a thing or two about digitals - I have to agree with TM.

If you're looking at a digital that will take great pictues look for a Canon G2 now that Canon has released the G3. Spend a few more dollars, you'll be glad you did.
 

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Reference Avet Reels

Hi to all,
First, my name is George Valentini and I work for the New York/New Jersey distributor (G & B Fishing Systems, Inc.)of Avet Reels. It should be noted that First Fishing has a direct relationship with Avet which was in existence prior to the G & B distributor relationship. I will attempt to respond here on what I have first hand knowledge of and where necessary I will get the info from Avet. First, on the binding, we have experienced this on a few SX's and the re-seating of the washers corrected the problem. I will talk to Avet about the excess grease as for the most part a light coating is all that should be applied at the factory with periodic cleaning and application of the supplied lubricant. With regard to the drag washers they are not Penn and are proprietary to Avet which is also the case on the JX and LX models. Regarding the reel foot, we have been in conversations with Avet on this as we marry the reels to St Croix Rods and many ofthe freswater series have the narrow reel seats. The biggest concern with mofifying the foot is the loss of surface area on the foot and loose seating inthe rod. Avet is presently modifying/manufacturing some feet and we have 8 on the way for our own modifcations to resolve the problem. Unfortunately, I believe that when available the small foot will be an additional accssesory on reel. I'm sorry there's not alot I can add here on this one as you guys have a very good handle on the internals of the reel. The thread on the 2 speed annodizing has peaked my interest. The EX & EXW 2 speed have only been available for the last month or two and I wouldn't think that's enough time for annodizing issues to surface but I will check. Last, the handle issue is confusing me. The picture earlier in this thread appears to have the standard stock handle that is furnished with the reel. The JX and LX model handles are interchangeable with the SX but are NOT reccomended for the SX for the reasons stated earlier ie.: balance etc. I'm not sure why the bigger handle woulde have been requested/provided. Thanks much for inviting me to the board and please let me know if I can be of any help.
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George
 

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Welcome George:)>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi and welcome aboard Geroge. As you can see this board is made up of beginers and experts and great knowledge from all. I am happy you gave a good response to all the questions I brought up and I am sure many members here will have some of there own. As far as the Drag if you read my post I stated the Drag looks like an Ht100 from a Penn 4/0. I understand the reason why Penn will not supply it to you. The power handle issue makes sense and my buddy Mattyblazer Bought the reel with the power handle on it? So I will ask him to post the reason behind it and why the guy sold it to him like that . I also have noticed small washers used to center Bal. the spool on the main spindle on both sides of the spool. I saw matt's reel had play in the spool and seems it could use a washer to correct the play. The free spool is not good at all and I will recommend him to contact you on it. I?m sure it is a simple adjustment no biggie. But am I correct in the washers being used to bal the spool? Just curious to know about them? Also can you explain the 4 positions of the lever drag I find that a bit confusing. The back is free spool the 2nd is casting next is variable strike and then is the full forward a locked gear or is there still drag. Also as far as cast position is this used like a cam adjustment on bait casters to stop back lashes. Can you give some details on this it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again and looking forward for your reply :)
 

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Hello George and thanks for the informative post.

As far as your inquiry as to why people would select the larger knob - Many of these reels will be used for winter-time fishing and in this situation a larger barrel-type knob is much easier to grasp with or without gloves and this is a prime determinant in that selection. Plus there is always a lunatic fringe of "Tinkerers" like myself that want to add some extra utility to their reels to enhance performance. I am one that believes that a larger barrel knob is just more comfortable in one's hand that the flat blade type handle that comes standard on the SX. This is one of the reasons that a market for barrel knobs has developed for the direct replacement of the flat blade-type Newell handles, which frankly I find less than comfortable.

In the case of the SX reels, the larger barrel handle is just too heavy and IMO and judgement it unbalances the little reel to the point of annoyance. I believe that AVET needs to look into a Lexan, Delrin or or other type plastic handle knob that would be larger than the current SX standard knob, but not add appreciably to the overall weight of the reel.

These currently exist in the aftermarket - I have three of them on my little Newell 220s, and plan to add them to the rest of my Newell fleet shortly. For me at least they "Solve" this particular issue.

Can AVET go in a similar direction? I understand that there might be a feeling that a machiined aluminum handle knob is just more rugged and certainly looks "Cooler", but on these little reels the big knob just overwhelms the reel.

The other matter is this binding of the reel when the drag is engaged - you wrote that its a matter of recentering the spool washers? Is that correct? I then believe that the factory had best look into this issue as I've noticed it on every SX I've picked up and its been openly discussed on at least three other well-known post boards that I'm aware of. So there's a perception being generated out there that maybe the engineering is not quite right related to this matter.

George the reels are just beautiful, certainly WELL worth what AVET charges for them - IMO they are every bit the competitor to another California-built small leverdrag reel line - and at about 50% of the cost, appear to be the buy of the season.

But those two issues need to be poitively resolved before I retire my current veteran reels and replace them with 6 of the little SX's.

What do you think?

rgds, Leprechaun
 

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Avet reels

Hi again to all,
First, thanks to all for the warm welcome. You guys are probably doing more for my knowledge base than I am able to contribute to yours. First, on the lever drag setting, the first position is free spool, the second position is for live lining or by tightenting the drag screw for anti-backlash, the third position is for strike and the full position does have drag. This being said any true lever drag such as Accurate will experience tightening in cranking when the drag screw is completely tight. The logic per Avet was to allow for line breakage etc. without completely locking up the reel. I have copied this thread and sent it to the president of Avet for his input as well. Regarding the knob on the handle I just don't have any input as the earlier threads indicated "power handle" which I mistakingly thought was the handle size and not the knob. As I indicated earlier, Avet has this thread and hopefully I will get some information good or bad soon.
Hope some of this helps.
Best Regards,
George
 

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Handles

In lieu of the perfect handle, you pick the best one available. My hands don't like paddle handles, Not picking on Avet. I think that an Avet paddle would seem like a huge upgrade on a Calcutta 400 or Abu 6500. And the Avet power handle knob is too big for an SX. But it fits my hand better than the paddle. So, that's what I got. $10 more if done by the factory when built. The Shimano Trinidad handle rocks if you want something for inspiration. The ProGear handle isn't too shabby either. A machined aluminum knob isn't necessary. Plastic weighs less.
 

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Love that Trinidad handle, Pro Gear handles loosen up badly with heavy use
because of metal to metal contact.The aluminum Accurate handles I have used are wicked cold for winter fishing and also suffer from metal to metal wear.
Haven't tried the new round accurate handles but Tim Tower just bought a bunch of them for the Bunny Clark reels
we'll see.
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Got the blue SX back today. "Binding" has lessened to the point where it is not significant, though if you know what to check for, it is there.

The word from the factory on the little reel feet is 2 weeks and $8-10. The reel fits my rods, but I may pick up a "little foot" just in case I put the Avet on a rod with a small reel seat.

Think I'll hang it on the line winder and run it for a few hundred thousand revolutions some Sunday. Hey, it worked on loosening up my VS reels. Man, I am getting tired of this winter.
 

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Tog - It ain't the link that's bad

That whole Allcoast site seems to down right now - maybe they're having a server issue or are redoing something or other.

Try it again later this afternoon - its worth a read-thru.

Leprechaun
 
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