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Well there's nothing to do; the weather sux and the wind chill here in boston is -15 degrees. So I was wondering: how many of you guys have aquariums, and what kinds of fish do you have??? I used to be a real aquarium addict, and at one point had 4 tanks going, but have settled down and currently have only my 125 gallon. Working at a pet shop for one month in the summer for 12 dollars an hour in store credit did me well. In my tank i have a pair of 7 inch tinfoil barbs, an 8 inch pleco, and the king of the tank, an 8 inch jardini arowana. This might sounds skimpy for such a big tank, but I'm growin these little guys up.
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A twelve gallon setup for the kids, red barb, danios, austrailian rainbows, the rest died (too many fish). Actually had a freshwater ray in there for 24 hours, he croaked.

Anyway, what I'd like to hear about is a saltwater setup, with native species, blackback, porgie, seabass, tog ??

Does anyone have experience with this ?
I promise I'll try my best NOT to drop a line in the tank, no matter how bad the weather.
 

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I've thought about the native stuff, but it's just too expensive. The most expensive piece of equipment would be a chiller, which can run you 600-800 bucks. As to casting to them, not with these guys, but with my previous theme in this tank about a year ago, which had a pair of 12 inch crappies and a 17 inch largemouth, i did enjoy bouncing a plastic worm along the bottom and getting hit.
 

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I knew it......

Hey - last year about this time I found myself in the backyard casting to the squirrles - was pretty funny.
 

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Well, since you asked . . .

A long, long time ago, back in the mid-late '70s while I was attending College full time, I worked weeknights in a few of the larger aquarium stores here on Long Island. These included Tropical Wonderland out on Montuak Hwy in Bayshore, Tropical Showcase in Hicksville and maybe the most famous of all, Ed's Tropical Aquarium in Bethpage and Lynbrook.

Worked in these shops weeknights and on weekends worked the deck of a then-major charter boat - the Bluefin II out of Woodcleft Canal, Freeport. Jeesh, I guess I couldn't get enough of the fishies, even then.

My job was generally as "The Closer" - I was given the responsibilty of completing those sales that would yield the greatest revenue to the stores. In a pleasant, but purposeful way it was my job to move the customer into the better lines of tanks, filters, higher-priced glass gravel - explaining in simple terms what was required to maintain the system and above all - sell the guy on the higher-priced "Consumables" like Ed's house brand of activated charcol, for example.

You see back then at least, people assumed that you made a killing on the tank and accessories, but that wasn't where the money was, it was in the fishies and the consumables - filtering media, fish food, live food, chemicals and the like. Maybe still that way, I really cannot say. But that is what I did, and now looking back I suppose that's where I picked up and honed what little salesmanship abilities I've carried fwd to this day. Talking isn't my weak point as is regularly pointed out to me.

Anyway, those jobs gave me lots of exposure to the maintenance side of things too and pH, dH, salinity, nitrate levels, these were terms and concepts that I dealt with all the time.

All this exposure to aquariums made me quite jaded to the "Run-of-the-mill" species - though veiled angels and the such were and are quite beautiful, I had an eye for the exotic. At the time SW aquarium-keeping was in its infancy and seeing the losses we took even in the stores soured me totally to them, so what was left?

Well there was this whole new type of fish just starting to be imported into this country from Africa - and they collectively became known as African "Rift Valley" Cichlids from Kenya and Mozambeque - distant relatives to the very popular South American cichlids, like the Oscars, Jack Dempseys and Convicts that had been around for years, but these new AFRICAN cichlids were strikingly different - really brightly colored in all sortsa combinations, many strangely shaped and they were above all, EXOTIC and EXPENSIVE.

None were yet bred in captivity, so all had to be laboriously hand netted, bagged and then flown into this country for eventual sale to the rich American public.

I was in love. I had to have the most diverse collection I could afford. My 55-gal tank was clearly insufficient for this, so a 100-gal was quickly purchased at employer-cost and all the accoutrements required for a tank of that size as well.

These fish were quite pricey in those days, more than SW fish even, but I didn't care - I got a nice discount and had to have them.

So over about 10 weeks I put together a very nice assortment of juvenile specimens and was really quite proud of my tank with these unique fish displayed in the reef-like surroundings that they were collected from.

Because these fish were REALLY new, there was not much know about them at the time. But I got plenty of experience and quite quickly.

Lesson 1 - these fish were EXTREMELY territorial and would beat any adversary just to death that dared to try to inhabit ITS part of the reef. Lost plenty that way, particularly when they started growing up and the males started exerting their "maleness."

Lesson 2 - Not much was known at the time about the water chemistry these fish required - we knew about the high alkalinity and the saltiness of course, but who thought that nitrates were important to such a hardy-appearing fish? Lost ENTIRE tanks of them to a parasitic protozoan that inhabited their intestinal tracks and was just waiting for a water chemistry-induced stressful situation to weaken them. Hundreds and hundreds of Dollars worth of them would just quit eating, get a nasty case of bloat and then turn upside down and float up to the surface dead. Water changes, careful monitoring of pH and dH were ineffective as were most of the antibiotics available to us back them.

It was just heart-breaking watching this scenario repeatedly play out time and time again as these beautiful fish that had travelled half-way around the world to live in my tank just bloated up and died. Despite my best efforts.

After about 2 years and a few thousand hard-earned part-time dollars wasted, I just gave up and sold the entire setup.

I always wondered if that bloat problem was ever solved, I was sooo turned off and soured to the whole situation that upon graduating college and moving on in life I never really kept track of that side of the hobby. Or any other side, for that matter. Plus about that time I decided I wanted a boat more than dying aquarium fish - so that's wherethe money started going. Not to mention the weekend "Trolling" we discussed on another thread.

I wonder if the problems specific to those fish were ever licked, maybe with nitrate filtration via protein skimmers.

Anybody ever get involved in this somewhat arcane side of the hobby?

Well, that's my Aquarium story anyway.

rgds,

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As many of you know I just moved to RI. Before the move I had lots of aquariums set up, too many to count. The centerpiece was a 500 gallon mini-reef with all kinds of coral and few of the exotic tropical salt water fish, crabs, urchins etc. I also had a 125 gallon fish only Salt tank. Willy, I don't think you would need a chiller to keep most of our local fish. I moved all of the tanks (besides those two I have about 8 30 gallons, 5 15s and a couple of 10s and 5s. One of these days after we get settled in I'll start playing with the aquariums again.Rift lake chiclids were never of much interest for me, but I work with a guy who is really into them. I used to beed and raise mainly south american chiclids and some anabatoids.
 

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makomike, sounds like you are even more of a fanatic than me. I've done virtually every kind of freshwater tank you could imagine (plus a brackish in my 16 high), but my favorite fish are still jardini arowana. I just can't get enough of em. I'll post a pic of mine when i go home from school saturday.
 

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Up until I moved recently, I had a 75 gallon tank with a 1.5 foot silver arowana that I raised since it was a mere couple of inches.
55 gallon with a 5 cichlids.

Codfisha if you want to get your arowana to get big feed it frozen ground beef heart or if you can find healthy feeding fish thats also a great alternative
 

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1.5 foot silver aro is a nice fish, although maybe a little small for a 55? I feed my aro all sorts of stuff: beef heart, live goldfish, pellets, even bologna or turkey when im bored. He eats it all. When he reaches about 14 inches i'll probably sell him, they're worth liek 250 bucks at that size if they're in good condition. I'm also planning to get a red tailed catfish and maybe a pea**** bass at some point. I love those red tails, they just grow so $%$^in big.
 

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About 15 yrs. ago back in college we had a tank. My roomates were arguing about what the "toughest" fish was...the Jack Dempsey or the Oscar. I told them that I would bring a fish up that was much smaller but would soon put 'em all to shame. After the next break I brought up a little snakehead and they laughed. In 2 months time there was only one fish left in the tank...a very FAT snakehead!

Lep, those African Cichlids were almost all exclusively from Lake Victoria and unique to that lake. Over the years over-collecting and the introduction of the massive Nile Perch has drastically depleted the 1000's of diff. species...most of them are extinct now. my $.02
 

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Willy,
My son used to love arrowans. At any point in time we had anywhere from 3 to 6 of them around. Most of them fell prey to the "I forgot to put the top back on" syndrome. But a couple just got to be so big that we had to sell them. One these days I'll setting up tanks again, probably come summer when I'll undoubtedly try to keep some the salt water fish from around here.
 

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I'm down to one tank, a 75 gal reef setup w/ a small few fish too. I've had as many a 3 "micro" (<20 gal, one was 1.5!) reefs going at the same time + 2 fresh. I was also breeding ****atiels & lovebirds at the time.
Codfisha,
I know a guy in NJ w/ a "local" salt setup. No fancy gear. Just a couple of "wonder wheels" & an airstone. Frequent water changes keep him going.
 

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i love those beastly, nasty fish, such as snakeheads, aro's and JD's. I've never had a gar, but that would probably be pretty cool. The most personable ish i ever had was a red tailed cat; i could hand feed him and pet him and stuff. Unfortunately, he grew from 2 inches to about 10 inches in about 3 months, and because my biggest tank at the time was only a 38, i had to get rid of him. By the way, I've heard of guys keeping snapper blues in tanks before, that would be a pretty cool setup.
 

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About three years ago I caught four bably dolphins (mahi Mahi) one nigh while we were sitting on the ball chunking. Later the next day we caught a white marlin that had a remora attached and I also caught and kept the remora. I took them all home and put them in the 500gal reef. what a hoot, they were beautiful. Unfortunately, I didn't think to cover the tank so about 5 weeks late I came home one night to find all four Mahis on the floor :( The remora lasted about a year and kept growing, then suddenly it disappeared.
 

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I have a 55 gal. set up like one of our local lakes
2 Largemouths 13in
3 crappies a little over 9 in
1 carp to clean the bottom
2 sm catfish

I ues to have bluegills in with them but those little bastards kept attacking all the other fish in the tank.They were trying to eat the fins off of my Bass!
Its kewl watching them feed when i have some extra bait. (killes,crawlers,wax worms ect)
Right next to them i have a 4.5 ft Monitor (lizzard) that is like a dog. He bumps your feet when you are having dinner, so you will give him some!!!!
 
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