NorEast Fishing Forum banner
1 - 7 of 7 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
287 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I would like to upgrade my fishing tackle, I was interested in buying 2 Loomis rods for a Penn 975 and a calcutta 400. I would use the 975 set up mainly for bass and the C.400 mainly for fluke.
At the moment I use a P.Powerstick for bass with a TLD 15, so if I needed to drop 8 ounces I can. I do most of my fishing in FI Inlet so the most I use is 6.
Being that this is my first Loomis rod I would like to keep it under $180 if possible for the bass and as cheap as I can for Fluke, maybe a GL2? Thanks a lot for your help.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
10,099 Posts
Are you really stuck on getting Loomis rods? If not then take a look at the St. Croix PM66MHF for the bass fishing. My buddy(s) use this "Muskie" rod on my boat for everything from Bass'n with bucktails in the Gut to Clam chumming in the back bay in Wantagh to Codfish at Coxes to Blackfishing at 17 Fathoms. This has got to be one of the most versatile rods out there and a good match for your 975. That's what my friend Mikie uses on it. Around $120.

If you want a Loomis - try their Muskie 6'5" "Bucktail" rod or their slightly stiffer 6'6" "Jerkbait" rod - the first is $150 and the second around $190.

Or go nuts like I did and have a rod made up using the St.Croix 2M76MHF blank cut to 6'4" FROM THE TIP. This will cost considerably more than any store bought version, but it absolutely kicks butt in the applications above.

rgds, Leprechaun
 

· Registered
Joined
·
108 Posts
Johnny B,
Good first hand info posted above.

Another option is the Loomis SWR84-16C. 7', 16# line,fast action and light power. They list it for kingfish, stripers and albacore. It is expensive.

I build on the same blank for fisherman to drift fluke in inlet and they use it on the reefs for porgys and sea bass. It will handle bass just fine.

Capt Neil

Custom Fishing Rods by Captain Neil
(631)567-8049
 

· Registered
Joined
·
287 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Thanks guys, I think I may go with the prem. St. Croix that you mentioned Leprachaun. Its a nice price for a nice light weight rod. I had a question though, why does the line rating have such a gap between the #'s. (17-40?). Thanks again.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
108 Posts
Johnny B,
Happy New Year.

About 10 years ago while working on the Sound, St Croix sold a blank that was perfect for blues, stripers etc. As luck would have it when I tried to order the blanks they had discontinued that model.

St Croix makes very good blanks/rods. They are probalby best known in fresh water areas.

At the request of a young mate, now a captain, I designed and built him a cod fish rod that was cut from a 9' spin blank. He loved the action of the blank. After giving him all the reasons why I should not build him a cod rod on that blank, I told him I would build it under 1 condition, if it broke he would not ask St Croix to replace the blank. This blank was to perform duty above and beyond.

The only reason I built him that rod was because I knew he did not abuse his tackle. He is easy on his gear.

I trimmed the tip and the butt. We ended up with a very sensitive, 7'6", light weight rod.

Then, those young mates convinced me to go cod fishing with them. In Dec. we went on an over night trip on the Lady Francis, Rhode Island. Great crew and boat. We had fantastic cod fishing. You should have seen this young fisherman wail on 20# ++ cod with this St Croix custom rod. It performed admiralby.

Then, as they blew 3 whistles to head home the seas changed. It was like being back in the North Atlantic again on a Destroyer Escort. You know how close to the rail I was for the next 7 hours. HA!!!!! Those cod trips get me all the time!!!!!

Any way, why the 17-40# spread. Hard to answer without seeing and feeling the blank/rod.

I would call St Croix and ask them. (800) 826-7042. They will be glad to help you.

Was just looking in my catalog from 1998 and I have that PM 66 MH rod highlited. Then it was rated 15-30#s. That blank was the one I tried to purchase. My guess is that they redesigned the blank and made it a tad beefier.

Thanks Leprechaun for the headfs up.

Capt Neil


Custom Fishing Rods by Captain Neil
(631)567-8049
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
10,099 Posts
I believe that the wide #-test spread is just another indication of just how versatile that rod really is. Like I said, my buddy has made this rod his "Go-to" stick and uses both Ande 30 and now 30# PowerPro braid on it for blackfishing with me on my boat at 17. (After I beat him over the head for years about braid's advantages and finally bought him a spool to try). Anyway, he uses the heck out of that rod and while he is fastidious about taking care of his tackle, he absolutely is the hardest at hitting a fish that I've ever seen. Swings so hard he gets a pair of lips if he misses the hit or rolls over the fish. The point is that if his rod can survive what is now about 4 seasons of "High-stick" striking from him, I think that is proof enough of the strength and quality of the blank. Enough to convince me to committing major bucks towards having a custom rod made up using a similar blank in the St. Croix line.

Try it, you'll like it.

Now that I've clarified - let me cloud it up a bit - If you want something a little more beefy, try the PM69H - that rod is REALLY powerful - no problem pulling 20# cod at Block or Coxes, but it lacks the tip action of the smaller rod. Not what you'd want for Bass.

Another of my favs is my trusty Lamiglas IC66XH - another powerhouse that can set the hook like no other rod on a deep water blackfish - like at 17. It IS the best at sensitivity and hook-setting I've ever used. (And that includes 2 VERY expensive custom Cape Fears - they excell at other things) The problem is that once the fish is hooked, and particularly with braided line, that rod doesn't allow any cushion for the fish to pull against so you've got to back off the reel drag a bit after hooking. I personally tends to drop too many lip-hooked tog on the Lami, but I always take it with me nonetheless. It's just a fish killer.

After all that and in the price range you mentioned, for all around excellence in a store-bought factory rod - go with the St. Croix PM66MHF - you won't be disappointed.

Note: Not affiliated with St.Croix, or anybody else for that matter, unfortunately.

But that Capt. Neil makes a mighty fine rod, as I saw at the Lindenhurst Flea Market. ;)

rgds, Leprechaun













This message was edited by Leprechaun on 1-1-02 @ 1:32 PM
 

· Registered
Joined
·
287 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Thanks again guys, I'll definitley think about all the info you have given me. At this point most likely go with the PM 66MHF, as the rod will mostly be used for bass fishing and some blues once in a while.It's also in my price range at the moment. I appreciate you guys taking your time to answer my questions, have a Happy New Year.
-JB
 
1 - 7 of 7 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top