[ryn123]

I was fishing with my new maximizer rod and a daiwa crossfire 2500 i got at J&h and my 10lb suffix braid broke 4 times.Is 10lb suffix too light because i fish braid on my other poles and it was never broken once. The braid wasnt breaking at my knots but in random spots. I lost at least 20 dollars worth of tackle today. Should i go to mabye 20 lb suffix? or is something else wrong? please help

 

[bonsiguy]

i dont know obout the suffex but sometimes with the power pro there is a bad batch .dont know why but it happens try and return it shouldnt break like that.

 

[Leprechaun]

This is the first report I've read about problematic Sufix Braid. I use the 20lb version and its been aces.

Maybe like bonsiguy says - they have "good batch/bad batch" issues - like PP is justifiably famous for.

Lep

 

[Tomthebomb]

I've had problems with suffix 10 lb also in my walleye and bass fishing. its much stiffer than Stren super braid in the same pound test and tends to slip on occaision. I've been casting crankbaits with ten lb super braid for about ten years and it holds knots better and is more supple than PP or suffix and its cheaper to boot!

 

[623282]

Breaking line

I had a similar problem with Power-Pro, however, it was the rod eye not the line. What I did to find out was to take a length of line rub it see-saw fashion through each eye of the rod. The eye tip was the culprit. It was on a brand new "ugly stick" with Fuji eyes. Couldn't detect any burr or scrape, visually. Try that, I'd lay money that the problem is the eye tip.

 

[Slick56]

go with the 10lb fireline, IMO so much better and stronger than most braids. Stren microfuse is good too.

 

[travelingwaves]

On topic, I tried 6lb. stealth spiderwire up in onieda lk. early this june fishing for walleye.. I was flatlining stickbaits and rigged on st.croix and g-loomis rods/ combo'd to stradic shimano spinning reels the 6lb fireline(on my other rod. The stealth birdnested on retrieve and I had to cut the stuff... I am going to stick with fireline, it is smoother than the stealth sw. Any body else noticed the difference yet?

 

[ihavegills]

Can't say

First braid I tried was Fireline 7 years ago and never looked back. tried PP twice to compare and was dissappointed. You get what you pay for with Fireline especially in the 4-12LB test. It has insane strength and lasts a long time.

 

[eddie1]

I'd sure chek the drag on the reel! It is only 10lb test! Just a suggestion.

 

[jordan78619]

Before you go & change your line. Get some Q-Tips or cotton balls & run them on the inside of your guides. If there is a nick or crack in the guides it will catch some of the cotton. You are using a very thin line, you may not be able to see or feel the nick or crack.

 

[Slick56]

i agree, fireline smoke color only, the stuff is like a wire cable! lol
I do hate how you get black stuff all over your hands though, its annoying.
Fluke I use 14# or 20# smoke fireline, bass and blues from the boat and surf 30#.

When I need more than 30lb line I go with Spiderwire Ultracast invisi-braid 50#, this is the only other braid i will use. I dont like PP or Spriderwire stealth.

 

[stpaul7]

jordan78619 wrote:
Before you go & change your line. Get some Q-Tips or cotton balls & run them on the inside of your guides. If there is a nick or crack in the guides it will catch some of the cotton. You are using a very thin line, you may not be able to see or feel the nick or crack.
I use Suffix on all my reels never had a problem till the other day I fish with 50 LBS and it broke 3 times on me

Sure enough I had a tiny nick in one of my guides. My tackle shop guy did exactly what Jordan said above and found the problem and fixed it. I used the pole twice after that no problems since. Here's Kat using said rod with one on.

 

[6to8ftSeas]

A chipped guide will get you every time easy fix though.

What are you fishing for with 10lb? are you braking of with a fish on or while your jigging?

If your line snaps at the pole when you cast or while jigging start checking guides. don't use your finger though, take a piece of braid and run it through the guide and pull it in all directions. I had a guide broken one time that you could not see, but it cut the line every time.

 

[ryn123]

6to8ftSeas wrote:
A chipped guide will get you every time easy fix though.

What are you fishing for with 10lb? are you braking of with a fish on or while your jigging?




I have checked my pole for cracked guides and they are fine and it broke once after i hooked up but 3 times just sending my spro to the bottom.

 

[ryn123]

I contacted suffix and they said that it is probably a bad batch of braid and they are sending me free braid

 

[6to8ftSeas]

Cool

Free line is always cool

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but, when you say sending your spro to the bottom do you mean the line broke with almost no tension on it, not snagged on bottom, not a fish strike, just free spooling?

And if yes, was the break in the water were you needed to reel in a few yards of line with no tackle or was it above the water line where you would need to let line out of the spool to tie on a new rig.

I'm just curious cause if that's the line

that's like a catastrophic failure, not like the mysterious break off with powerpro.

 

[ryn123]

6to8ftSeas wrote:
Cool

Free line is always cool

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but, when you say sending your spro to the bottom do you mean the line broke with almost no tension on it, not snagged on bottom, not a fish strike, just free spooling?

And if yes, was the break in the water were you needed to reel in a few yards of line with no tackle or was it above the water line where you would need to let line out of the spool to tie on a new rig.

I'm just curious cause if that's the line

that's like a catastrophic failure, not like the mysterious break off with powerpro.
Yes it broke in free spool absoulutley no tension 3 times and once it broke neer the top of my rod when i hooked up with a fish. It was breaking near the water but not in the water like it was breaking between the water and my pole this is the wierdest problem with any type of line i have ever had

 

[6to8ftSeas]

Again, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but that really sounds like a cracked guide. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I have never heard of a braid failing so bad that it breaks with no tension. If so, that is just embarrassing and they should pay you off to not tell anyone.

Just to be on the safe side, before you spool on your new spool of braid

I would check the guides again. Like I said before visually doesn't really cut it. I saw a guy loose his rig three times on a charter boat once. we both looked at all the guides and could not find a thing, but when I started running braid through each guide I found one that cut the line clean with no effort. If it cuts more on the descend then it is probably on the top of the guide were the line is not touching when you are reeling in. the line gets cut or nicked when it's unwinding of the spool, the little bit of slack in the line enables it to hit parts of the guide that would not normally get hit when you are reeling in with some tension.

To check the guides use a piece of braid about 16" long and check one guide at a time. run the line through the guide then pull it up and down like dental floss and go all the way around the guide. your goal is to get the line to run across every part of the guide. then check if there is any damage to the line before you do the next guide, although if there is a crack the line is most likely just going to be cut.

If I'm wrong then I'm just a stubborn pain in the ars, but I think, better safe then ruin a spool of braid. Let me know what happens cause now I'm real curious about that braid if it is just failing like that.

 

[ryn123]

I ran each guide with a piece of braid and nothing happened then I tested the strength of the braid and i dropped a ten ounce sinker into my 10 foot pool and bounced it and i casted it down a hill and it didnt break at all. This is wierd because I was fishing about 1 to 3 ounces when the line broke on me. The package from suffix came to my house todayand when i opened the box I couldnt believe they sent me 3 300yd spools of 20lb braid in three different colors

Even thought the ten pound test handled the tests well I am never gunna risk it and fish with it again so I am going to spool the 20 lb on it later tonite,

 

[6to8ftSeas]

Oh wait......... what's that sound.........I think the braid on my reel just spapped

............... I gotta go write a letter

Cool

Sounds like they may know they have a bad spool out there, and it's probably a few hundred thousand yard or something so probably wise to stay away from the 10 for a while.