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Date posted December 9, 2003 6:38 PM
Posted by Leprechaun
Report location New York > Debs/Jones > 17 Fathoms
Fishing method Boat
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Well, we were owed a beautiful, calm day and we finally got one.



Shot down to 17 on a flat ocean, not a single drop of water hit the windshield going down there (Or coming home) and set up on some favorite bottom for a very slow pick for an hour or so. Not much doing there, so up-anchored and ran over to slightly shallower water next to a fellow Noreaster who shall remain nameless to protect the innocent. I guess it was a slight mug job, but what's a few fish between friends?



Got a steady pick going and put together a decent catch of 19 keepers to 5.5lbs for the three of us. Probably would have limited the boat but a certain crewmember (Initials "KK") still had to take his graduate course in the virtues of no-stretch braid over his rubber-band Ande to cure the light-tapping tog problem.



I think he finally saw the light today after switching to one of my braided line setups and hurting a few fish. Hope he made it to Causeway tonite in time to load his reels.



I think the smallish size of the fish today and the picky nature of the bite indicated that though they are now settling into their deep-water digs, they ain't all there yet and feel no great need to wolf the baits.



Next few days look funky - maybe late weekend for the next run.



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bhm25


Joined: 08/12/2001
Posts: 775
Location: jamaica bay
 12/09/2003 08:01 PM  

saw you out there today cap......well there was only one shamrock out at 17 so i guess it was you......same here slow pick on the tog took entire day light hours to limit out had 2 cod also who said you have to go mass...lol........tight lines ...good fishing to all.....Capt Anthony
 
sundancer

Joined: 04/17/2002
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Location: mass. cove
 12/09/2003 09:35 PM  

hey lep sounds like a good day. Do you have a shamrock inboard.1 inch shaft 13by 13 prop if so i have a spare 4 you . ken
 
Leprechaun
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 12/09/2003 10:31 PM  

Ken - that's very generous of you, but a 1" shaft and 13x13 prop fit the 20-foot Shammie. My 26 takes a 1.25" shaft and a 16x17 wheel. Thanks again for the really nice offer though. rgds -


"Hi, my name is Pete and I have a fishing gear problem."
 
Billy40
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 12/10/2003 12:37 AM  

What baits were you using? That light tap crap is pretty annoying, isn't it? MY friend was out there today as well, slow day for them, although he also landed a Cod. How long before they shut down Toggin, and open up Codfishing?


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triniron

Joined: 11/07/2001
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Location: queens
 12/10/2003 07:36 AM  

yeah it was a slow pick today...we fished a piece in 80 ft of water outside of jones inlet and had a slow pick so we headed over to 17 and had a better yet still slow pick over there too. the fish were not hittting right, a lot of taps....my highlight was hookin a a borderline keeper cod. my lowpoint, well the lever for freespool on my 1 month old torium broke!!!!damn i'm $%&*@ pissed!!!probably be out there friday....--------->trini
 
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 12/10/2003 09:17 AM  

Billy - whites, greens, japanese. They liked the small whole japanese withthe top shell removed the best. Hardest for me to get though -


"Hi, my name is Pete and I have a fishing gear problem."
 
bigtom

Joined: 11/10/2002
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Location: new rochelle
 12/10/2003 11:09 AM  

hey lep, you've helped me before with my 20'ph... so how bout explaining how to rig the superbraid set-up so it does not get tangled on the way to the bottom? thanks bigtom


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 12/10/2003 11:28 AM  

BT - I assume you mean over on the Shammie Owner's site? Great, glad it worked out, whatever it was, frankly I forget. As far as tangling - what's tangling? Are the crab baits wrapping around the main line on the way down? If so, that's pretty common. What I do is to use 80lb leader material and keep the leaders VERY short - 6" max. Plus I make up a rig that uses that smae 80lb for a short run above the hooks. All this stiff leader material, and short hook leads will prevent MOST of the spinning of the baits. Plus, if you remove the legs/flippers of the crab that also will help. But there are times that the fish will show a definite preference for a small whole crab, legs and all, (Like yesterday for example) so then what I do is to very lightly apply thumb pressure to the spool as its paying out the rig - this slows down the descent of the rig and also helps keep bait spin to a minimum. -


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Billy40
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 12/10/2003 01:37 PM  

Superbraid tangling? IF your braid is tangling with your hooks, you got other problems. Maybe you need a longer leader, for one. Everybody does things differently though, you gotta figure it out for yourself. I would suggest a 15-20 Mono leader, other sill suggest a 3 foot leader, while others might suggest a rig tied on a swivel and is about 18" long. Everything works, you just gotts figure out which one works for you.


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paulh


Joined: 11/29/2000
Posts: 1468
 12/10/2003 02:05 PM  

That WAS you ! This moderator mugging stuff is running rampant ;)


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joeybud

Joined: 05/23/2003
Posts: 354
Location: MULDOVIA
 12/10/2003 02:07 PM  

we banged them this morning alittle north of 17....with fish up to high 8's...no reel monsters but alot of action....on johna's snafu.......w braided does the trick for us..(25' express fisherman white w/ black top) be out both days this weekend stop and say hey........bud............
 
kickahh

Joined: 11/01/2003
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Location: Sayville
 12/12/2003 12:30 PM  

Leprechaun, First time posting. I was reading old report from last year, where you described your job. Anychance you work for OAI? regards, Kickahh
 
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