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Who is catching the blackfish "lobster pots, or fish pots"???



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no clue

Joined: 11/16/2001
Posts: 71
 posted 03/01/2002 07:45 PM  

Ever fish a wreck or reef and get pissed off at the amount of "so called lobster pots" on them? Two years ago a local commercial fisherman packed up, and moved out of new york, after it was found out, he was part owner in a lobster boat, who was putting hundreds of fish pots on some of our local reefs, which were created for recreational fishermen.These pots were found to contain thousands of blackfish and seabass being sold to a live market. A quick call got these pots off some of our reefs. Besides it is illegal for any pots to be placed within a mile of any wreck or public reef. next time you encounter such pots on your favorite piece, ask yourself the question, Lobster pots? or Fish pots?? what do you think??? A proposed decrease in catch limit? what are your views??? who is really responsible for this species decline. should the authorities go after the live market more agressively ?



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trophyfsh

Joined: 09/13/2001
Posts: 15
 posted 03/01/2002 10:33 PM  

There is a law against the pots being placed within a mile of a fish haven in local waters. In the case of the Ab reef, the reef itself is 3 miles out,making it federal waters. Out there, if you notice, there are pots on the North side of the reef. THat is the reason for them being so close. The worst part of the fish traps, is that they put a female fish in there, she attracts hundreds of males, after the pot is emptied, they put her right back in. She is the black widow of Blackfish. Those pots must go.


 
no clue

Joined: 11/16/2001
Posts: 71
 posted 03/03/2002 08:16 PM  

yea trophyfish, does the law apply to reefs offshore, because two years ago they were all removed from hempstead reef which is four miles off ! I remember reading that these reefs were supposed to be for recreational interests only. At any rate i would like to see the law go after the live market. With this out of action ,these pots might disappear!


 
trophyfsh

Joined: 09/13/2001
Posts: 15
 posted 03/03/2002 09:56 PM  

From what I was told, the reefs are off limits within a mile of the structure. The Ab does have pots, and they are just off the north side of the reef. I thought the offshore waters were considered different, thats why those pots are atthe Ab. If anyone can clear this up for me I would appereciate it as well. As for pots in general, they wont go anywhere unless the laws change, making them illegal altogether. Even without the live fish market, there is still a demand for the fillets here in the states. Pots are the highest producing method for the commercials, so they would still use them. I hate pots more than any other commercial gear, it is rapes the bottom of all life in an area.


 
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 posted 03/04/2002 10:37 AM  

New York has jurisdiction over the south shore waters out to 3 miles after that its federal waters. In LI sound NY has jurisdiction out to the roughly the mid point, where CT takes over, there are no federal waters in the sound. That's why the further out reefs had the pots removed in the sound.

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no clue

Joined: 11/16/2001
Posts: 71
 posted 03/04/2002 05:05 PM  

what really gets my goat,is these guys drop these pots passing them off as lobster pots ,and we get penalized when the ,numbers are in. Take striped bass, for example, the big argument, was always the commercial guys blamed us,and we blamed them, but think about this little statistic, 15yrs ago,everybody fished for flounder in the spring, and they were plentiful. Blackfish could be caught in abundance by the bridges, blowfish, weakfish,fluke, all in lg. numbers. NOBODY was targeting bass in the spring, yet they almost became extict, when they were commercially harvested. Now today, the floundering stinks, the weaks are just coming back, the blowfish are gone ,and the blackfishing is mediocre, yet with 10 times the boats and many, many, more recreational fishermen, today, the SRIPEDBASS fishing flourishes greater than it ever has. Which goes to prove one thing, its the one fish these commercial guys can,t get there GREEDY little paws on! For those of you who can remember, 15 years ago, there were only a handful of fish markets on long island, Today every supermarket in the country carries fresh fish. There are over 300 supermarkets on L.I alone and 95% of them carry fish, which means thousand of lbs wind up in the garbage every day. Who supplies these guys ? Its not the recreational fisherman! Last year, two fluke boats which were allowed 500lbs a day, were stopped with over 5000 lbs in their hulls, and they just happened to be the only ones caught that day.It would take an armada of recreational fishermen with todays size limits, to catch that in a lifetime of fishing. Which is why I get upset about the blackfish pots ,this has always been a hook and line sport, and we should all fight to keep it that way!


 
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