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Phil64

Joined: 09/29/2011
Posts: 5
 posted 10/06/2012 11:32 PM  

I was fishing a south shore pier and there was a ton of "Shad". A guy was fishing to use them for bait. Looked like a great idea, so I checked the NY regs and American Shad are prohibited whereas there is no limit on Hickory Shad. Does anyone have any idea on how I can tell the difference?

Appreciate the help, being new to the Salt water scene.

Thanks,

Phil
 
smackass9

Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 169
Location: Brightwaters
 posted 10/07/2012 05:47 PM  

In all likelihood it's a hickory. That's what we get on south shore
 
Phil64

Joined: 09/29/2011
Posts: 5
 posted 10/07/2012 06:16 PM  

Thanks appreciate the reply.
 
silvereel333

Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 108
 posted 10/07/2012 06:46 PM  

I believe there is no size limit on hickory shad but there is a 5 fish possession limit according to the DEC website
 
stromatolite


Joined: 08/19/2010
Posts: 40
Location: Long Island
 posted 10/10/2012 02:43 AM  

The main difference that i see is the lower jaw of the hickory shad projects well beyond the upper jaw compared to the american shads lower jaw which only projects slightly beyond the upper jaw. Also if you were to lay them side by side, the hickory shad tends to have a straight back bone compared to the americans more rounded back bone. Hope that helps.


This post edited by stromatolite 02:55 AM 10/10/2012
 
crabman1130


Joined: 03/25/2003
Posts: 39977
Location: Farmingdale
 posted 10/10/2012 05:07 AM  

Hickory.










American.








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Phil64

Joined: 09/29/2011
Posts: 5
 posted 10/10/2012 05:43 AM  

That helps a lot; now that I know probably won't catch any, but I really appreciate the reply. Any day I learn something new is a good day. Thanks.


 
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Joined: 04/11/2001
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Location: Holbrook, NY
 posted 10/10/2012 06:52 AM  

I was out there on Monday and saw all those fish too. I don't think they were hickory shad either. They didn't have the pronounced spot on their side, and seemed to be more slender bodied than I remember hickory shad. I think they may have been alewives, although I've never heard of them around this time of year. Alewives "run" here in the rivers in early spring.

Eitherway, use a sibiki or mackeral rig with small tin at the bottom to catch them. or if you just want to catch some for fun, an ultra light rod, with a small tin will give you some fun sport.


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This post edited by Hunt n' Fish 06:54 AM 10/10/2012
 
yunvfrank

Joined: 08/20/2008
Posts: 11833
Location: Bayside
 posted 10/10/2012 09:26 AM  

Hunt n' Fish use a mackerel rig and clip in a A17 chartreuse green tube and retrieve slowly you'll be rewarded. Not with shad you'll hook up to plenty of bass this way as well too. Football sized but fun. I believe it's because they are chasing the shad that are chasing your rigup


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