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bigcaptainron


Joined: 05/20/2010
Posts: 23
Location: west islip
 posted 08/20/2013 12:03 PM  

I'm looking to take my 26fs regulator to 100 square with 200 gallon fuel tank and twin 250 yamahas from fire island inlet. Should I'm bring back up jug of gas. Furthest I've been on this boat is coimbra which is 47 miles from inlet and I burn 100 gallons round trip plus trolling. Any advice suggestions would be appreciated.
 
leftjammer

Joined: 08/24/2003
Posts: 1635
Location: Nassau County USA
 posted 08/20/2013 12:06 PM  

the rule is 1/3 there - 1/3 back - 1/3 reserve.

Sounds like you might be a little short, but that's not saying it cant be done. We have done Hudson on a 26 Wellcraft with twins that only held 150 gal. Granted we never went when the weather was an issue


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Cardrok


Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 413
Location: Breezy
 posted 08/20/2013 12:33 PM  

I think you are really pushing it. You burn 1 gallon per mile, and you are running 200miles AT LEAST and thats without trolling and in perfect conditions.


Unless you bring an extra 75-100 gallons I would be weary on taking that trip.
 
bigcaptainron


Joined: 05/20/2010
Posts: 23
Location: west islip
 posted 08/20/2013 02:49 PM  

friend has same size contender with twin 250. He makes it to 100 sq and back on 150 gallons.
 
TunaBully


Joined: 08/11/2003
Posts: 366
 posted 08/20/2013 03:42 PM  

The fact that your friend can do it in a similar sized contender does not necesarrily mean that you will be able to do the same thing. Apparently his fuel consumption is better than yours for one reason or the other. Here is my simple logic as to why you will probably need a bladder:

You have informed us that you burned 100 gallons running to the Coimbria and back which is 47 miles each way or 94 miles in total. Put differently you are burning a bit more than 1 mile per gallon as highlighted above. The 100 square is going to be about 90 miles from Fire Island Inlet one way, assuming you run in a perfectly straight line (unlikely), and before factoring in the traverse across Fire Island inlet or any trolling you are likely to do during the day. This means that you are going to burn over 200 gallons on the trip, unless of course you have your fuel burn numbers wrong.

Keep in mind that the 100 square is a long run and you are really pushing the envelope in a 26 foot boat. Not saying it's not possible, but you really need to pick your weather windows and err on the side of being careful. If you're set on making the run, better to have the extra fuel on hand than run out of gas somewhere along the way.

Best of luck - Tunabully



This post edited by TunaBully 03:44 PM 08/20/2013
 
Cardrok


Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 413
Location: Breezy
 posted 08/20/2013 03:55 PM  

bigcaptainron wrote:

friend has same size contender with twin 250. He makes it to 100 sq and back on 150 gallons.



Contenders and Regulators are COMPLETELY different riding hulls. Regs smash through waves, contenders tend to ride on top...yielding much different fuel burn numbers.
 
driftwood32

Joined: 10/14/2011
Posts: 46
 posted 08/20/2013 03:55 PM  

REGUATOR

BIG RON - I have done it many times on a 2003 26 w/ 250 HPDI's but held 230+ gallons. I did buy a fuel bladder after coming home very light( I ran out of gas at the dock)I moved up to a 32' Regulator and can offer the bladder at half what I paid for it. The fishing is good watch your fuel go for it, hope you have a tow membership just in case.
What is name of boat ?
 
thesabiki

Joined: 06/17/2012
Posts: 1
 posted 08/20/2013 05:30 PM  

It is doable. I made several trips to the 100sq last year on a friends 2010 26 with 250 yamahas. We ran from Manasquan right around 95nm one way. One trip we had bad weather and was a 7hr ride in. We burned every gallon plus 15 extra we burned but still made it to the pump.We must have been running off the fuel filters at the end. You definitely wont be playing by the 1/3 rule. That boat is a beast and I would do it again. Run out with another boat and do it when the weather is perfect or get a 30 gallon bladder. Good luck.. Rich
 
kwickey1

Joined: 12/08/2011
Posts: 46
Location: Shiny Cock, NY
 posted 08/20/2013 05:50 PM  

Your best bet is to get a bladder and run a bit short of the square and then troll the rest of the way there. Stop at the tip and put the lines in. I have caught plenty of nice fish at the elbow, and other spots short of the square. That, or move the boat to Shinnecock and fish the dip up


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Crabman


Joined: 09/03/2007
Posts: 86
 posted 08/21/2013 08:43 AM  

My 27' Contender burns the same as your 26' Regulator running from Fire Island to the Coimbra. 100 gallons. I've been considering running the Contender to the 100 square but I do feel my fuel capacity at 210 gallons is a bit light for my comfort. Loaded for tuna fishing, I run heavy with fuel, crew and ice. If the weather kicks up, I know I will burn more but how much? I have a 70 gallon bladder which would give me plenty of extra fuel but I hate having to use it. It's a tough decision. 200 gallons is just borderline without carrying extra and it sucks watching the fuel gauge all day long.
 
kwickey1

Joined: 12/08/2011
Posts: 46
Location: Shiny Cock, NY
 posted 08/21/2013 09:14 AM  

Forget the Square! Take a day to run the boat out to Shinnecock. Leave it at Jacksons or Oaklands for a week or so. From the inlet, the Dip is 68nm, and the Fishtails is 72. This is much closer than the 90+ to the square. Run 60 miles and you are only an hour troll from the Dip! I don't know what for sure your fuel burn is, but that should give you a comfortable cushion.


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DarthBaiter


Joined: 05/24/2003
Posts: 8923
Location: Trollin NE for a bite...
 posted 08/21/2013 09:29 AM  

Crabman wrote:

My 27' Contender burns the same as your 26' Regulator running from Fire Island to the Coimbra. 100 gallons. I've been considering running the Contender to the 100 square but I do feel my fuel capacity at 210 gallons is a bit light for my comfort. Loaded for tuna fishing, I run heavy with fuel, crew and ice. If the weather kicks up, I know I will burn more but how much? I have a 70 gallon bladder which would give me plenty of extra fuel but I hate having to use it. It's a tough decision. 200 gallons is just borderline without carrying extra and it sucks watching the fuel gauge all day long.


Burn the bladder on the way out. up

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outrageous21


Joined: 07/21/2006
Posts: 902
Location: Massapequa
 posted 08/21/2013 10:46 AM  

A friend of mine has a 2003 26 Regulator with 225hp Yamahas, last week he went out of Jones Inlet, shot to the Texas Tower and trolled to the Hudsonand trolled the east/west walls all day. He burned over 180 gallons of a 200 gallon tank. This was in flat seas.

I would say there is no way you can make the trip to the 100sq without bringing at least an 60-70 gallons
 
Jigalow

Joined: 11/07/2005
Posts: 657
 posted 08/21/2013 01:00 PM  

One of the guys in my Marina runs a 26 Reg to the Hudson but not sure what he has for tanks.
With all the recent action in the Tails I'd just do that.
 
wasabi1

Joined: 03/23/2005
Posts: 398
Location: Lido Beach
 posted 08/21/2013 02:21 PM  

I'm all for taking risks. But I'm not sure I would want to sign up for that. I can think of too many potential nightmare scenarios.

I'd consider the Shinnecock / Dip thing, or maybe a tune up to the Tower and Tip of the Hudson before you try the square. Run to the tower, troll around there, and from there to the tip, work the tip/notch/Bombs. Bring a little extra fuel for that, and then see what the fuel burn is for that trip. A lot of fish in that area, and you knock about 50nm off of the trip, and have a lot of miles at trolling speed and lower fuel consumption.

Good luck, but I think you need to re-think the square without first looking at some shorter runs. Once you hit the 100 fathom curve and deeper, sea conditions get a lot worse than inside of the 100. No where to turn if weather kicks up too.

 
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