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Gamakatsu

Joined: 03/10/2001
Posts: 2268
Location: 24 29 30.69, 83 07 27.50--Euphoria
 posted 08/07/2002 11:17 AM  

I hate to wish away time, but is anybody else seeing green crabs in their sleep?

Gamakatsu


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spacegh8st

Joined: 09/17/2001
Posts: 238
Location: Queens
 posted 08/07/2002 11:22 AM  

Sitting here counting the days till OCT 6 th.

Space
 
TRADEnFISH


Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 309
 posted 08/08/2002 08:56 AM  

I fish with a commercial guy and we have been seeing some real nice fish all summer. South Shore west end. Greens and Hermits are doing best.
 
MIKE TUNA


Joined: 12/26/2000
Posts: 1478
Location: Long Island
 posted 08/08/2002 07:46 PM  

Funny you say that , its my favorite . I fish for all species but theres something about Blackfishing that has me hooked . Why is that ?


MIKE TUNA
 
Irrdain

Joined: 06/05/2002
Posts: 56
Location: Huntington Station
 posted 08/08/2002 09:26 PM  

Hey, since there are so many japanese shore crabs, why don't you start collecting them and then use them for blackfish? For food, just put in some chunks of meat and some dead fish like spearing. They only need about 5 inches of water which you could replace once every 5 days or so. And for cover, just get some rocks.


Tight Lines
         David
 
gottog


Joined: 11/07/2000
Posts: 1576
Location: NJ...now further from the water
 posted 08/09/2002 12:04 AM  

togtogtogtogtogtogtogtogWink

I can't wait till Oct 10th(NJ) "opening day" for my favorite bucktooth beauts and also my birthday Wink

Those Asian shore crabs work pretty well...for me they seem like tog-candy in shallower water, but don't work that great in deeper holes like 17 Fathoms, jusy MHO.

I already have a few trips planned and booked and xome more in the works.

I know Alberto loves them as well ans hopefully he'll post some of his secret tactics.
 
gottog


Joined: 11/07/2000
Posts: 1576
Location: NJ...now further from the water
 posted 08/10/2002 12:13 AM  

Thanks Gami...now I'm having dreams of green crabs, "white-leggers", Asian shore crabs, rock crabs, calicos, hermits, and my trusty pair of shears Wink
 
Diamondwrapper

Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 109
Location: Longs, South Carolina
 posted 08/10/2002 07:38 AM  

There is a sandbar that I fish on the North shore of LI.When I'm wadeing on the bar the Green Crabs are all over the place. Nice big ones too,HUMMMMM.


John
LIBBA 440
MSA 791
 
Gamakatsu

Joined: 03/10/2001
Posts: 2268
Location: 24 29 30.69, 83 07 27.50--Euphoria
 posted 08/11/2002 04:11 PM  

Hermit Crabs

Speaking of crabs, does anybody know where one can order a few bushels of hermit crabs in the late fall? Say maybe around December 14th...

Gamakatsu


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EC NEWELL MAN


Joined: 04/16/2002
Posts: 2582
Location: SHEEPSHEAD BAY
 posted 08/11/2002 06:32 PM  

Hermit Crabs in the Winter.......

Gamakatsu....you do not want hermit crabs for winter blackfishing...hermits are a spring time bait since the fish are taking soft baits like skimmers, sandworms etc, which are their primary diet at that time of the year. If you ever see what blackfish pass from their bodies at this time of the year, the most common thing you see is broken/ground up shells from mussels and clams. These fish have moved in from offshore, where they have been laying around in a semi-doormant state due to the cooler bottom temps...their lips are soft, thus the use of 'soft baits'. As you get into May, you see the fish respond better to fiddler crabs, and calico crabs which are 'soft' unlike the hard baits, the green crab and stone crab. You can also tell when their are starting to switch over to crabs by checking their 'anal opening' which begins to open up, both from the warming bottom temps, but also since they are passing crabs parts like the legs. Once you get into December, the fish have moved out into deeper water, thus you want to use the stone crab. Greg "Ocean Eagle", his brother and myself started the use of the stone crabs for the fall and winter fishing here in Sheepshead Bay years ago. While everyone was catching the smaller fish on the green crabs, we would fish on the same wrecks, or rough bottom, and pull up mules to the disbelief of people on the party boats. If you fish the Ocean Eagle, ask Capt. Greg how many times we would knock out a boat fishing near us when we put the stone crabs down. They were hard to get but we trapped our own bait, or bought from the local dragger fleet.
The bottom line, is when you start fishing the deeper waters around 80 feet and deeper, you want the hard crabs. Save the hermits for the spring time, when you are fishing the shallows in areas like Long Island sound.
EC NEWELL MAN>


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gottog


Joined: 11/07/2000
Posts: 1576
Location: NJ...now further from the water
 posted 08/11/2002 06:49 PM  

Gami, try sending Alberto a PM or an email...I know we used em at Orient Point...well the ones he didn't eat LOL
 
spacegh8st

Joined: 09/17/2001
Posts: 238
Location: Queens
 posted 08/12/2002 11:32 AM  

Gami and other tog veterans,

How about offering up some tips. what kind of tackle do you use?

I noticed that some guys like using rods up to 8 ft and there are those who use rods as short as 6ft. Any reason why? Looking for a rod, right now it looks like I am probably going to get a rod from the Lami braided line series in the 7ft range with 20-30lb test rating.

My reel is spooled up with 50# power pro.

What "poundage" and which braided line do you prefer?


Thanks
Space

 
Crazy-Al


Joined: 09/19/2000
Posts: 2424
Location: Long Island, NY
 posted 08/12/2002 12:03 PM  

Hello Diamondwrapper , John
A NorthShore Sand bar with lots of green crabs eh? Hmmm…. Smile


Gamakatsu,
You want Hermit Crabs in December…. I have a contact and that’s very doable. Eh..eh..eh… Wink



Hello EC Newell Man!
With all due respect, I have to disagree with you about the hermit usage. Although tautog loves the Green crabs and White crabs in the cold weathers… I don’t believe they will ignore a hermit crab! I’ve had many winter days where I’ve used Hermits against greenies… and the hermit got the hands down! In fact… Like the white crabs, once the tog got white crab taste in their mouth… They will ignore the greens at all cost!

Also, during the late Oct. – Dec months, Hermit crabs is considered the “golden bait” up in the Orient Pt. Wink

BTW: If you see Greg and the two brothers from the Ocean Eagle.. Please send my regards and tell them that I will be back in Dec.! Smile


"Crazy" Alberto
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"Crazy" Alberto
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Crazy-Al


Joined: 09/19/2000
Posts: 2424
Location: Long Island, NY
 posted 08/12/2002 12:09 PM  

Gottog wrote:
Gami, try sending Alberto a PM or an email...I know we used em at Orient Point...well the ones he didn't eat LOL
got tog?

____________________________
Hello Gottog
On our Orient Pt. charter... You can bet that there will be Hermits on board! Hey Gama… Send me an email regarding Hermits. Wink

BTW: Next time I will let you do the taste testing!Smile

"Crazy" Alberto
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"Crazy" Alberto
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gottog


Joined: 11/07/2000
Posts: 1576
Location: NJ...now further from the water
 posted 08/13/2002 01:33 AM  

Space,
currently I have three rods in my tog arsenal. The first is G.Loomis Bucarac BR915C 7'7" with a Penn 965 spooled with Fireline 30#
Next is my St Croix GMC70XH 7' teemed with an old Garcia Mitchell conventional(was my grandfathers) spooled with 30#PowerPro. My newest edition is the rod I think you're looking at, The Lamiglass BL7030C 7'. Still debating which reel to get for that rod but it'll probably be spooled with 30# Fireline.
I use a 7 to 12' leader of mono(25-40#) attached to the braid via an Alberto knot or a uni-to-uni knot. No hardware, just a loop at the end for the sinker and a dropper loop above(4 to 12" depending on conditions) which I attach a snelled hook to. The length of the leader on the hook depends on conditions such as current, etc.
I'm still learning and trying to refine my skills at tempting those bucktooth'd beauts.
 
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