Username:
Password:
Get Account    
Login
Home  |  Magazine  |  Reports  |  Discussion  |  Blogs  |  Photos  |  Tides  |  Weather  |  Community  |  Updates  |  Fishing Info  |  Contact

Date posted July 31, 2004 9:46 PM
Posted by 2 Joe's Fishing
Report location Debs/Jones > Capt Al - Point Lookout
Fishing method Boat
« Previous Report Next Report »

July 31, 2004



Capt Al - Point Lookout



Porgies/Seabass



Results: Whenever you need to break a slump you can always count on old reliable Capt. Al!

Went out with little bro for some bottom fishing. Wind out of S/SW. It picked up in the afternoon. Tide was mostly outgoing. Clam was the offering. Boat was not full. Probably 25 on board. Porgies dominated with a sprinkling of decent size seabass some of which were quite large. As a by-catch, striped bass, blues, triggerfish, fluke and yes a codfish was brought up. Little bro had 7 porgies and 2 blues. I ended up with 12 porgies, 2 blues, 1 seabass and 1 striped bass.

The striper was approx. 29 inches. The other striper caught that beat me out for the pool was a little longer and a little wider in girth. My striper was caught on a Marty Stern special porgy rig, hooked in the lip. So many things raced through my mind as I was fighting this fish least of all thinking that it was a Striped Bass! No sooner after my fish was unhooked the other angler was fighting his bass which he foulhooked nonetheless with a seabass hook just under the eye!

Many of us weeded through short porgies and seabass to cull our catch. I released many borderline fish keeping mainly solid keepers.

I know over the years there have been healthy discussions on responsibility for policing anglers who take short fish on party boats. Today, it wasn't widespread, but I was perplexed to see mates filleting short fish and it was disturbing for me to throw back a 10/11 inch seabass while one of my neighbors was throwing the same in his bucket. I refrained from saying something to avoid a potential conflict. I am not pointing any fingers, but it is up to all of us to be conscientious about the regs and play by the rules. How much meat can you get from these little fish? Enough with the politics.



Capt. Tom did a good job putting us on top of all kinds of species today! It was nice to finally take a few home!



2 Joe's Fishing



NICE DAY TOO
Open Boat Fishing Out of
NEW BEDFORD, MA
www.nicedaytoo.com/

Fishin Mission Copiague
Best prices on Tackle and Bait !!!!
Click here updated website !!! Save
www.fishinmissiontacklecorp.com

SEA ROGUE CHARTERS
Ocean Fluke - Bottom Fishing - Bass
Full Day - Half Day -Split Charters
www.searoguecharters.com

Buy your Noreast Media Text Ad Now!


  Comments and Questions  
Author Message
sundancer

Joined: 04/17/2002
Posts: 605
Location: mass. cove
 07/31/2004 10:16 PM  

know how it feels to watch people not caring about the regs.However one day it will pay off hopefully glad you got some good fishing in I to was out there but my crew went belly up a bit rough out. tight lines
 
2 Joe's Fishing


Joined: 03/24/2002
Posts: 86
Location: Queens
 07/31/2004 10:22 PM  

Thanks Sundancer.
 
ayzee

Joined: 04/22/2004
Posts: 6
 08/01/2004 08:43 AM  

I hope that the practice of keeping short fish and taking over the legal limit on party boats stops. Many private boat owners are under the microsope by the D.E.C. While no one is watching the party boats and the illegal taking of fish go on.
 
Royjoy

Joined: 05/17/2002
Posts: 97
 08/01/2004 12:12 PM  

ayzee, i think you have it reversed. i have never seen dec at my dock or on the water in over 50 years of fishing on the south shore of long island. it's the party boats that get inspected when they return to their dock and it amazes me that party boat fares continue to keep undersized fish and that captains and mates regularly ignore this issue.
 
Royjoy

Joined: 05/17/2002
Posts: 97
 08/01/2004 12:12 PM  

ayzee, i think you have it reversed. i have never seen dec at my dock or on the water in over 50 years of fishing on the south shore of long island. it's the party boats that get inspected when they return to their dock and it amazes me that party boat fares continue to keep undersized fish and that captains and mates regularly ignore this issue.
 
Timantide

Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 31
Location: Freeport NY/ Florida
 08/01/2004 03:00 PM  

I have seen DEC and Bay Wardens numerous times in the Jones Beach Inlet area. The Bay Wardens stop and check boats at random all the time here. I live at the end of Randal canal and have seen them follow boats all the way back to their docks.
 
2 Joe's Fishing


Joined: 03/24/2002
Posts: 86
Location: Queens
 08/01/2004 03:26 PM  

Bottom line is there is not enough DEC officers out there to police or enforce regs. I have never seen DEC officers on any of the party boats I have fished on LI.
 
crawdaddy44

Joined: 03/20/2002
Posts: 33
 08/01/2004 03:50 PM  

good let them keep the short fish because one day there is not going to be a damn fish swimming in the whole bay or ocean!!!!!!!!!
 
frieda

Joined: 05/11/2002
Posts: 11
Location: QUEENS NY
 08/01/2004 06:42 PM  

The regs are so far out of reach its putting all the party boats out of bussiness. The dec is bullshit and a 11 inch progie in ny is crazy when nj is 10 and mass is 9. The driggers can kept 14inch fluke and we have to keep 17. Quiet the bullshit is you dont know the score. The party boats are not in this the same way as a pleasure boat.
 
2 Joe's Fishing


Joined: 03/24/2002
Posts: 86
Location: Queens
 08/01/2004 08:20 PM  

Hey Frieda, you seem pretty passionate about the topic and I respect that as I respect others opinions on the topic. However, the law/rules are the rules and we must abide by them. This is not an anachronistic society we live in. It you want equality with the other states or believe that the data is flawed you have to attack it at the source or root cause of the issue.
 
PropellerJohnII


Joined: 04/05/2003
Posts: 222
Location: Bayside
 08/02/2004 11:56 AM  

I was on Capt. Al several weeks ago for a bottom trip. I witnessed 2 times a mate returning short fish to a customer refusing to fillet them. In fairness to the mates & Captain they can't check every fish going into buckets and tougher yet into closed coolers. On this trip the mates risked no tips at least twice in order to send the proper message.( Of course, I realize the mutts that keep shorts know the regs and still don't give a sh-t.) As far as sending the proper message, I was throwing back shorts larger than the shorts 2 guys next to me were keeping, ignoring their pleas of "Oh man, give it to me." Like he-l.


God Bless America
 
mamu1353

Joined: 08/29/2001
Posts: 47
Location: long beach ny
 08/02/2004 01:09 PM  

I work right across the street from all the Sheepshead Bay party boats and the DEC is there frequently writing summonses and seizing coolers. I live in Long beach and the DEC is in my marina on a regular basis. Between the bay constables, the coast guard and the DEC, anyone who keeps short fish is crazy besides being just plain wrong. All the above were searching boats all day yesterday at Paddy Magees all the way down to the Loop Pky.


Irish Wake
 
shoeman

Joined: 06/12/2004
Posts: 1106
Location: wantagh
 08/02/2004 10:09 PM  

i myself fish around jones inlet and have been boarded many of times on a private boat but have yet to see a charter boat get checked or see the DEC at a dock waiting for a charter.they are out there but they cant get every boat .i agree with the fact they could do a better job though.just my opinion. tight lines all


"i'm only gonna be gone an hour hun"
 
  Comments and Questions  


« Back to the Noreast.com posted reports



Contact Us
Get Help Using the Site


2014 Noreast Media, LLC.
Terms under which this service is provided to you.