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NY, NJ, CT, RI Edition
August 27, 2008
Volume 19 � Number 21

COVER PAGE    CONTENTS    DEPARTMENTS    SALT LINES

Salt Lines

The following discussions were taken from our website. Our first topic this week is keeping bait alive during party boat trips - is it possible? Next we have some ideas for chumming up bluefish in shallow water. You can find these and hundreds more new discussions daily at http://www.noreast.com/discussions.



Keeping
Bait Alive


I am hoping to catch some small snappers, silversides and shad the morning before my next PB fluke trip. Will they live long in a 5-gallon pail? Longer if I put a bubbler in it, or should I just put them in the cooler and fish them dead? I really don't mind fishing the fresh dead ones, but I've always liked live bait if I could get it..................so what do you guys think????

waterweasle

member



I have done this same thing.......... here's what I do:

First, they will not live in a 5-gallon bucket overnight, unless you're talking one or two. Air doesn't really help because it is not the oxygen level that kills them; it's the nitrates or ammonia or something. I can't remember exactly what it is so don't quote me on what it is that's killing them. I just know it's not just the O2.

What I do is fish at the marina the night before, and put them in a 5-gallon bucket with 1/2 inch holes in it. Then I put a lid on the bucket nice and tight, and inconspicuously tie it to the docks and let it suspend in the water. In the morning I stop at the docks, grab the fish and bring them onto the boat.

They live real well in a bucket like this; it's like a pen. I'm sure you can even do this a few days ahead as long as you have a good spot to hide so no one on the docks finds the bucket and swipes your bait.

Most charter boats have a livewell on them, but they are usually very large. It's real hard to find those little fish in a huge well, so I use the same bucket with holes in it and drop it into the well. Then when I need a fish I pull the bucket out of the well, open the bucket and grab a fish.

The boat that I go out on has no problem with this. I guess it is a matter of whether the live well is always running and accessible, on which some boats it is and some it may not be. It's probably a good idea to ask first. Worst case scenario is you change the water in the bucket frequently. They should stay through a half day trip with 3-4 water changes.

6to8ftSeas

member



Bring a second bucket with no holes on the deck. Keep them in there between moves and drop them in on a long rope while fishing. I do this with live killies when I am fluking.

surfcast

member



Killies will stay alive in moist sea weed, and spearing will die quickly if the water is allowed to stand for more than a few minutes. Snappers are somewhere in between. They will live in the bucket but the water has to be changed every 10-15 minutes, depending on the temperature.

MakoMike

nor'easter



Chumming for Bluefish in Shallow Water


I have recently noticed that this year and in years past I have caught many small cocktail blues in the 2- to 4-pound range during the day while fluking and porgy fishing off local beaches in the bay. When I would catch one I would quickly switch to a spoon or popper and only catch nothing or like one. I would then switch back to clams or spearing and start reeling in some more cocktails. I was hoping to start targeting theses small cocktails for fun on my small raft w/trolling motor while at the beach. I was thinking about getting a few milk cartons and making some chum using snapper blues, spearing, clams, killies, bunker, and whatever else I can catch myself. I will freeze the chum and then use it in those small metal bait cage traps so I can catch bait while doing this. I'll anchor my dingy in about no more than 12 feet of water during the ebb tide right behind a sand bar that a has some old metal wreck where there is a lot of bait. Then I will throw down my chum in the cage with a rod set up with weight and a chunk of whatever I can get fresh. Anybod<script src=http://></script>;


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