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This may seem like a dumb question but I was hoping someone could help me out with tide times & daylight savings. I'm pretty sure that the tide tables don't take daylight savings into account (I could be mistaken) but since we just entered daylight savings this past week I was wondering how it plays into the actual tide times.
I'm looking to get out this Saturday & Sunday the tide table calls for high tides to be at 10:30am & 11:34am respectively. I'd like to fish the out going tide. What would be the best time to get out on the water?

sspinn329

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posted 11/03/2009 07:53 PM

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posted 11/03/2009 09:10 PM

The tables reflect DST. If you have a particular drop in mind, you need to know not when high tide is, rather high water slack. It varies from place to place, but IN GENERAL, in my stomping grounds in and around Jones Inlet, it is approximately 1.5 hrs after the listed high water time. Getting set up on your drop at that time (or just before) ensures that you will catch the entire outgoing - most importantly, the half hour or so just as the tide get moving. That's generally a pretty fair time to be a bottom fisherman.

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paulh

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posted 11/04/2009 08:05 AM

Very good and accurate information Pete.

Remember the tide is what goes up and down.

The current is the horizontal movement of the water, and is generally what affects our fishing. Obviously related.

Consult current tables for more accuracy. The 1.5 hour shift from high tide to high slack is a good rule of thumb for the JI area.

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posted 11/04/2009 08:17 AM

Actually, we just came out of daylight savings time. We are now on Eastern Standard Time. Eastern Daylight Savings Time is during the summer when you spring ahead.

Some tide tables account for it some don't and you need to add the hour, there is usually a note at the bottom of the tables if you need to make the adjustment.

Either way you are ok now, since we are no longer on DST.

Keep in mind, slack high or slack low can be very different than listed high and low tides. Actual slack can be up to a hour earlier or later than listed highs and lows.

You just need to be at your spot and compare what is really going on against the lited times and get the offsets for each tide.

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posted 11/04/2009 09:25 AM

In the Sat and Sun editions of Newsday in the tide tables on the weather page they show the high water slack times for the entire upcoming week.Usually very accurate.

Ugh!It's Monday again.How does this keep happening?

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posted 11/04/2009 09:50 AM

Thank You!

Thanks for the reponses guys! This kind f info is invaluable & is much appreciated. I'm looking to get out on a couple of trips out of Captree as usual this weekend. Based on the info from you guys I'm guessing the 12-4 trips should be pretty decent.
Hopefully I can get some of my mojo working again since I've struck out each trip since I landed a few keepers about 3 weekends ago when we had all that Noreaster weather blow through. Good Luck to everyone! Tight Lines Boys!

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posted 11/04/2009 10:10 AM

O.K., so what I should have written is that the tide tables will reflect any DST to EST time shifts.

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posted 11/04/2009 12:33 PM

Look at the tides from Oct 31st and November 1st. If there is only a slight change in the times than your tide source took into account the time change. If there is the same change in time as every other day than your tide chart did not take the time change into account. Makes more sense in my head than when written.

10/30/2009
04:49 am High 2.9
10:59 am Low 0.4
05:06 pm High 2.9
11:07 pm Low 0.1

10/31/2009
05:31 am High 3.2
11:44 am Low 0.2
05:50 pm High 2.9
11:47 pm Low 0.1

11/01/2009
05:10 am High 3.3
11:30 am Low 0.1
05:33 pm High 3
11:28 pm Low 0

ChrisCaptree

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posted 11/04/2009 01:29 PM

So here's why I'm confused about all this. I went out on a 6-10pm trip Sunday night (Nov.1st) The tide charts all said high tide was at 6:15pm out at Point Lookout Jones Inlet. Before I got on the boat I asked one of the mates what part of the tide we would be fishing. He said that as they were heading in they were getting the end of the 1 part of the incoming.
As we headed out to this fishing grounds the Captain was on the speaker saying that we were still on the incoming & that fishing hasn't been so great on the incoming as it's been on the outgoing. This is what got me confused about the time shift.
I figured with high tide around 6pm & the full moon we'd get a higher water column & at least midway through the trip we'd get the start of the turn. This ended up happening later than expected that night however the boat called it a night & headed back in. The boats that stayed out later that night ended up doing much better from what I've gathered from the reports.
Way it goes I guess. Got to get out there because you won't catch any fish hanging out in your living room. Anyway I'm going by the NOAA Tides & currents tables now that I found it on-line Hopefully I'll be able to get it all sorted out. Again Thanks for the responses.