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TheMissingLink


Joined: 06/19/2007
Posts: 18
Location: Wasington State
 posted 06/20/2007 05:41 PM  
Also dont listen to people who say you cant .
Like you cant or wont catch fluke at night . I have had such a consistant fluke bite at night . These fish are so aggresive on the night feed .Also think like a fish , what would a fish do . Bass love structure , drop-offs and i found out they love the drains . If you connect the dots putting all these together you should have great success. Oh i almost forgot lights are super important because they will bring the bait right up . Thats why bridges peirs and others produce quality fish at night .

I also recomend for anyone looking for great tips i highly reconmend Striper Surf by Frank Daignault...

All i want all i need im only after Death!God Hates Us All!
 
Requiembmx

Joined: 04/25/2004
Posts: 747
 posted 06/20/2007 06:02 PM  
wahoolust wrote:
Pput on some whloe squide and crack open a cold one and get some sun.
Hint keep an eye on the pole and a loose drag. or better yet use a live linner spinning reel.

Sounds like the fifty combo to me Toungue
 
stpaul7
BIG DOG WINNER
2010

Joined: 04/23/2002
Posts: 15941
Location: Moriches
 posted 06/21/2007 04:34 AM  
a Old Chinese Guy once told me, don't think like the Fish, Think like Bait...

Find the Bait, you find the fish...


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This post edited by stpaul7 10:42 AM 06/30/2007
 
broasterhouse

Joined: 07/22/2004
Posts: 108
 posted 06/21/2007 04:31 PM  
tides

I was fishing an east end inlet on the outgoing last weekend and it was all bluefish until the tide started to slow. Then it was bass just for the last half hour until the flow was slack. This seems to be a trend for me. The half hour of slow but moving water on both sides of both tides seems to be bass friendly. Also 5" storm shad, pearl color are deadly. I like starting with these. If there are blues around (which is usually), forget it.
 
Ed The Red


Joined: 08/22/2001
Posts: 429
Location: Patchogue & New York City
 posted 06/21/2007 10:11 PM  
broasterhouse wrote:
I was fishing an east end inlet on the outgoing last weekend and it was all bluefish until the tide started to slow. Then it was bass just for the last half hour until the flow was slack. This seems to be a trend for me. The half hour of slow but moving water on both sides of both tides seems to be bass friendly. Also 5" storm shad, pearl color are deadly. I like starting with these. If there are blues around (which is usually), forget it.


The bass are there. You need to get under the blues. Try 3 oz or even 4 oz bucktails when the current is cranking. Last weekend you had a new moon tide as well. As to shads, take a look at the 7" Tsunami in pearl. It will get down deeper.


I'd rather be fishing!
 
likeitreallyis


Joined: 10/28/2005
Posts: 16104
Location: Rolling in the deep....
 posted 06/23/2007 09:01 AM  
Changing your line on your reel

Throw the spool of line in a bucket of water, keep tension on the line with your finger as you reel in... works on boats too!

Take me down to paradise city where the grass is green and the girls are pretty..
 
BigShow


Joined: 10/25/2002
Posts: 1070
Location: here today right where I sit
 posted 06/24/2007 11:02 AM  
When fishing there are no rules.

Some of these comments are dead on. All those old wife tales don't necessary apply! Can't catch Big fish ........on a certain tide, during the daylight, under lights ect ect heard them all. Those rules don't really follow. The only rule is You Can't catch fish when your line isn't in the water..........and that's not always true. Who hasn't Grabbed a Keeper on occasion bare handed off the beach, Washed up with the surf during the frenzy of a blitz. Aweiss said he caught on those cheap cotton Cordell poppers.......I picked a couple of those out of the bargain bin at Sports Authority years ago. A true Piece of turd. Friend advised me don't waste your money. Such Cheap plastic no respectable surf caster would own one .....Yet that lure has out produced all plugs in the bag. I Hate throwing it but I love reeling the fish that love it. So don't limit your self Fish when time allows

One of my early preconceived notations was Bass where super predatory fish on the move prowling for prey which for the most part may be true. However after Diving and watching them I found they are allot like Trout. Sitting conserving energy waiting like a trout in an eddy or behind a structure or beneath a drop off out of the current while allowing the current do the work. Waiting for a meal to drift by and seize it effortlessly.... Bait pasted within easy reach was passed up unless it was right on the big ones nose. Smaller Juvenile Bass would work harder and attack prey while the adults would sit back and let the kids with all the youthful energy work for their meal. Bass also seize their prey by the head so Eyes are important. the direction of travel is key but a visible eye may help seal the deal . It's a ...cue and strike target for the fish. Include some on all your bucktails It can't hurt.

I don't really trust my fish finder. Most of fish markings allot are false readings..... But the Bottom structure, dropoffs and such.. Read them like a book!



Worry looks around Sorrow looks back,  but  Faith looks forward! Live simply, love generously, care deeply, speak kindly and trust in the life given to us.

This post edited by BigShow 11:45 AM 06/24/2007
 
stpaul7
BIG DOG WINNER
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Joined: 04/23/2002
Posts: 15941
Location: Moriches
 posted 06/24/2007 01:27 PM  
Big Show is so right

Fish finder's are good when I have mega bait to find like the herring run in the fall Love that Sonar and when I'm off shore it really works to fins fish and Bait. But what do you do with it, in the bay? My area is only 6'deep and most of the time if your fishing in 3 foot or less so my sonar is USELESS. However rips in the water and drop off's ever so slightly and just knowing where the fish like to hang out is enough info for me to find fish. Ever walk over the bridge and see the bass hanging out in the shaddows waiting to strick? I've seen like a dozen or so just hoovering close to the top waiting. Also seen it at night up one of the creeks. It's very cool to see. They are oppertunity Feeders and the big cows only feed maybe once a day so you line better be in the water when they decide to feed.

Sacrafice must be made when fishing. You must put your time into an area. That means other areas in your life are gonna be lacking such as SLEEP,FAMILY,FRIEND'S and WORK. I know when I get up earily I'm missing my sleep. Which makes me tired when I get home. So my family suffers, While I go right to bed and I diffently don't feel like working after I've been fishing. So my wallet suffers too. It's a juggling act any successful fisherman will tell you about there Sacrafice. Until you retire then you don't feel like fishing anymoreToungueToungueToungue!!!

THINK POSITIVE!!! Never think your not gonna catch fish. I use to fish with my father inlaw. He would always say there's no fish, I never catch any. Show me where the fish are. My Father too lol. I would say there right here and proceed to hook up on a fish and pass my pole to them. There both retired now and neither one of them is willing to Sacrafice Sleep to catch fish LOL!!! I always go with the right additude and sometimes still don't catch fish. But I still like being on the water. There's really something to starring out into the ocean that hypnotizes me every time I look out onto the water. Hence thats why Ocean front property is so expensive.

Ok enough jibber jabber GET OUT AND GO FISH!!!
Pablo


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tiderunner70

Joined: 11/09/2003
Posts: 7171
Location: long island
 posted 06/25/2007 12:02 AM  
ok thats enough.


quote:
I don't really trust my fish finder. Most of fish markings allot are false readings..... But the Bottom structure, dropoffs and such.. Read them like a book!






and to u 2 stpaul. is this a surfcasting forum or what?????????????? don;t know about u guys but i dont rely on electronics from the suds. and i have to tell you i do not rely on them either from the boat in the bay. to be honest on my boat i had dam near no electronics. there are no need for them in the bay. if u can not read the water in the bay u need to spend more time in the bay than noreast online. from moriches through rm the structure is completely different yet definable. not predictable but definable. for the rest of your season go out and feel your territory that you fish. really feel it. sit back no talk no noise and feel it. breathe it in. the only thing u can hear is the splash against you. when your night vision is up open your eyes and see the slight differences of structure that produce the cow on 1 cast. some guys walk out there and stalk the prey. they hunt and stalk the prey. 1 cast is all it takes at times for some. and bam there is your cow. not a rat u need to carefully need to release. a cow.


know your gear. know your target. know your structure. know your fishes tendencies... all tendencies....


Tom Farrell
Vice President - New York Coalition for Recreational Fishing
weakfishin@yahoo.com


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stpaul7
BIG DOG WINNER
2010

Joined: 04/23/2002
Posts: 15941
Location: Moriches
 posted 06/25/2007 09:24 AM  
Sorry Tiderunner

I was stuck home in between Church and a Graduation Party. It was so nice out I was going nuts. I was also On a LARGE COFFIE thats why I was all over the boards yeasterday. I WAS BOARD AND JEALOUS OF ALL MY FRIENDS that got to fish.


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tiderunner70

Joined: 11/09/2003
Posts: 7171
Location: long island
 posted 06/25/2007 02:33 PM  
church??? graduations???? where are your priorities???? get out and fish man... lol

Tom Farrell
Vice President - New York Coalition for Recreational Fishing
weakfishin@yahoo.com


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stpaul7
BIG DOG WINNER
2010

Joined: 04/23/2002
Posts: 15941
Location: Moriches
 posted 06/25/2007 02:39 PM  
I know what the HELL was I thinking???



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tiderunner70

Joined: 11/09/2003
Posts: 7171
Location: long island
 posted 06/25/2007 03:51 PM  
i have to apologize to you stpaul7. after re reading what i posted it sounds alot nastier than what my intentions were. so please do not take what i wrote the wrong way.

Tom Farrell
Vice President - New York Coalition for Recreational Fishing
weakfishin@yahoo.com


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legasea
Noreast.com Club Member


Joined: 09/09/2002
Posts: 1524
Location: Not telling, but the bite is on here!
 posted 06/25/2007 04:33 PM  
Bring your spouse, son or daughter fishing. Even if you have no luck with the fish you may get lucky with the wife Smile No luck with the fish, you may learn something from your son. No luck with the fish, you may learn more about your daughter and heck, if you catch fish then you will have something to share with your grandkids when you get old, like some good old fashion fish tales.

Beside that a lot was said here but here are a few of mine.

1. Fish close to home often. You will be great in your local spots vs. average all over the place.

2. I LOVE black bombers and darters in the dark, especially if there is rock structure to be found.

3. Bigger is not always better and sometimes a smaller popper or pencil will work even better.

4. Sometimes bigger is better so always be prepared.

5. Mix up your fishing. I fish the surf heavily, my boat when I can and love a trip to PA with my brothers fishing large mouth bass. As long as I am fishing I am at peace.

6. Give back.... I have learned so much from my friends so taking out people who rarely fish is a great joy for me.

7. Take what you bring and then some....garbage that is.

8. Chicken Scratch bombers always work when you threw everything else.

9. Always hold your pole when bait fishing...and get the freshest bait you can find...always!!!!

10. Air down.

11. Respect your fellow fisherman at all times. We are brothers and sisters in our sport.

12. Understand the difference between Tide and Current especially in your local inlets.

I can go on and on but won't.

 
wahoolust


Joined: 06/24/2002
Posts: 973
 posted 06/26/2007 03:09 PM  
Hey Legasea
Great post.
Your #1" fish close to home" is so important cause you get to learn what works when and can take that info to other places.
#8 Chicken Scratch. Agreed why do the work so well?
#11 I learned long ago. one day I was fishing the sore thumb and doing well, a nother caster came up to me and watched for a while then walked away, I asked him why as he saw me catch and release what at the time was a very big bass. And he said there was no need to crowd another fisherman the beach is big enough for everyone. I try to live by that except during the fall blitz's even on the boat.

I'll add one. how about going bait fishing on the beach but don't bring any only use what you can find or catch with your hands then put that on a hook and catch something then use that as bait and work yourself up the food chain. Great thing to do with the kids.

God is Great; Beer is Good..........
and
People are Crazy!
 
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