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she's 1187' long and 208' wide if you look at the completed ship out of the water you can see how she looks below the water line nothing like that pic that was posted earlier. My wife being a travel agent has already booked quite a few trips on this ship its a hot booking right now. Next week i am going with her to the city for an over night stay on the Carnival Dream another new cruise ship little smaller than the Oasis. The Norwegian Epic is another new ship thats beautiful also

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posted 11/03/2009 07:23 PM

pig pile on SORTIE? bring it on baby

jimgleiss wrote:
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Mike: what is unclear about my statement "I can't imagine being on that boat in anything but calm seas"? Norwegian Dawn physical damage may have been limited to glass and a handrail, but its passengers probably will never take another cruise.
I met a couple on a cruise in 2006. They got a voucher for a free cruise when their prior cruise ship, the Crown Princess, rolled 23 degrees and injured nearly 300 people (the Feds blamed a crew member's steering error for the roll). This couple had no fear of returning to cruising only a couple months later.

Passengers 'Held On For Dear Life' When Ship Tilted

Attacking this ship and the cruise industry as a whole because you "don't like them any more than" you "like Sea Rays with 12' topsides" is ridiculous. You don't like cruising and you're afraid of cruise ships, we get it. Leave it at that...

Here's a link you may find helpful.

well, well, well. apparently I touched a nerve in Mr. Jim Gleiss. do you sell cruises, Mr. Gleiss? on the one hand you make my point for me, on the other you accuse me of having "cruise phobia" Roll

you apparently know ONE couple who returned to cruising via a free coupon received from the owner of a pig of a cruise ship that rolled TWENTY-THREE degrees. were they exceptionally hardy or amongst those that were NOT injured?

nowhere in this thread have I demeaned the ENTIRE cruise industry. I started this thread to criticize a monstrosity of a boat that could have only been designed by accountants and marketing surveys.

I have no phobia. The basis for my objection to cruising is an open-ocean cruise that Harriet and I took on a storied liner two years ago. Please forgive me, but being on boats with 1 - 6,000 other strangers doesn't appeal to us.

In summary, I say "let a smile be your umbrella"

As for Mr Mako, you are by nature argumentative, which makes you the perfect moderator for the lounge, where arguments are rife. But it's erroneous to dismiss my opinions as 'unfactual.' The opinions I express are my own and you are free to disagree, as Captain Paul did (with facts). The next time we cruise, it will be on a smaller boat. I have no plans to cruise on an abomination like the OASIS. Nor do I have any plans to stop criticizing her design just because you don't like me spouting off (and this isn't even your forum Finger

). If you haven't notice, I specialize in spouting off (never in doubt, often in error)

bottom line: only time will tell whether this design, which no doubt passed tank-testing and all sorts of sophisticated computer modeling, will actually hold up to Strong Gale conditions.

God forbid OASIS ever rolls, the resources required to rescue 8,000 souls would be beyond immense

now who else wants to take a swing at me tonight? I'm feeling strong, my blue blazer with the custom buttons feels like armor tonight Shades

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posted 11/03/2009 07:32 PM

SORTIE wrote:
jimgleiss wrote:
SORTIE wrote:
Mike: what is unclear about my statement "I can't imagine being on that boat in anything but calm seas"? Norwegian Dawn physical damage may have been limited to glass and a handrail, but its passengers probably will never take another cruise.
I met a couple on a cruise in 2006. They got a voucher for a free cruise when their prior cruise ship, the Crown Princess, rolled 23 degrees and injured nearly 300 people (the Feds blamed a crew member's steering error for the roll). This couple had no fear of returning to cruising only a couple months later.

Passengers 'Held On For Dear Life' When Ship Tilted

Attacking this ship and the cruise industry as a whole because you "don't like them any more than" you "like Sea Rays with 12' topsides" is ridiculous. You don't like cruising and you're afraid of cruise ships, we get it. Leave it at that...

Here's a link you may find helpful.
well, well, well. apparently I touched a nerve in Mr. Jim Gleiss. do you sell cruises, Mr. Gleiss? on the one hand you make my point for me, on the other you accuse me of having "cruise phobia"

you apparently know ONE couple who returned to cruising via a free coupon received from the owner of a pig of a cruise ship that rolled TWENTY-THREE degrees. were they exceptionally hardy or amongst those that were NOT injured?

nowhere in this thread have I demeaned the ENTIRE cruise industry. I started this thread to criticize a monstrosity of a boat that could have only been designed by accountants and marketing surveys.

I have no phobia. The basis for my objection to cruising is an open-ocean cruise that Harriet and I took on a storied liner two years ago. Please forgive me, but being on boats with 1 - 6,000 other strangers doesn't appeal to us.

In summary, I say "let a smile be your umbrella"

As for Mr Mako, you are by nature argumentative, which makes you the perfect moderator for the lounge, where arguments are rife. But it's erroneous to dismiss my opinions as 'unfactual.' The opinions I express are my own and you are free to disagree, as Captain Paul did (with facts). The next time we cruise, it will be on a smaller boat. I have no plans to cruise on an abomination like the OASIS. Nor do I have any plans to stop criticizing her design just because you don't like me spouting off (and this isn't even your forum ). If you haven't notice, I specialize in spouting off (never in doubt, often in error)

bottom line: only time will tell whether this design, which no doubt passed tank-testing and all sorts of sophisticated computer modeling, will actually hold up to Strong Gale conditions.

God forbid OASIS ever rolls, the resources required to rescue 8,000 souls would be beyond immense

now who else wants to take a swing at me tonight? I'm feeling strong, my blue blazer with the custom buttons feels like armor tonight

Well GEEZS Brother, I took a swing and you ignored me surprise

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posted 11/03/2009 07:35 PM

This is the way a ship is supposed to look.

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posted 11/03/2009 07:42 PM

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I'm feeling strong, my blue blazer with the custom buttons feels like armor tonight

You crazy Republican. I knew you wore that thing relaxing at home!!!!

Mike is being particularly nasty in his replies today isn't he? Did you two have a fight?

Well, like my father said, there is a difference between ocean liners, and cruise ships. Ocean liners are designed for crossing the oceans and dealing with much nastier weather than the typical cruise ships of today are. My parents and I just got back from a 13 day trip on the Ruby Princess. 951' long and 118' wide, 4,200 passengers and crew. I've never been on an ocean liner, but all the cruise ships I've been on have all been floating boxes. When we pulled up to this ship, I couldn't help but say how ugly she was. But that "uglyness" is what allows for more than half of the rooms to have balconies, etc. which is what most people today want.

Despite all the people on board, Gina and I made friends that we saw regularly around the ship. But there weren't many people in our age group on this ship to begin with. The food I believe is a result of what line you're on. I've always enjoyed the meals on Princess cruises. Smaller lines are just as able to have crappy food.

But for seaworthyness. Cruise ships (not ocean liners) while making the occasional transatlantic crossing, are not ment for that regularly. Island hopping among protected islands, and shallow waters, are what they are ment for. And I'd say Skip's right on his assessment that they are floating hotels/amusement parks. Where the stay is part of the fun of the trip. They are not just meant to be a means of getting from point A to point B anymore, more like an ocean liner's role. And they do rock and roll, in even small seas, relatively speaking.

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posted 11/03/2009 08:00 PM

ship probably is very entertaining to be on, just way too crowded and food/service has got to suffer...best cruise we were ever on was on the Celebrity Zenith, NY to Bermuda, a "small" ship at maybe 700 feet, no balcony cabins, but service/food/atmosphere were very nice.

Oasis of the seas like mentioned earlier is not built like the QE II which went from NY to England pretty much year round, in nasty weather with easy. They keep making these ships bigger to get more people on to squeeze more $$ out of you, pay restaurants, pay exercise classes, pay tours, expensive drinks, spa treatments, pay pools even, how big is too big? I bet they make one bigger than Oasis. Way too big for our liking.

If my pocket could afford it we would go on Silverseas or Seabourn but they're a bit pricey.

I'm sure it's safe, but what an operation to rescue 8000+ people, hope we never find out.

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posted 11/03/2009 08:20 PM

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well, well, well. apparently I touched a nerve in Mr. Jim Gleiss. do you sell cruises, Mr. Gleiss? on the one hand you make my point for me, on the other you accuse me of having "cruise phobia"

My nerves are just fine. I don't sell cruises, but I've been on a few and I enjoyed them. After seeing you and MajorMike going back and forth, I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon and see if I could touch one of your nerves. Enjoy!

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posted 11/03/2009 08:41 PM

I was a 3rd engineer on the SS Independence back when she was with American Hawaii Cruises.

I have just heard that as I write this, she has been secretly towed to Alang, India to be scrapped. She is full of aspestos, PCBs and other toxic materials. Since she is an American hull, she is supposed to be scrapped in the USA following environmental guidlines. She was supposed to go on the beach just a few days ago, but Indian officials put a stop to it when a court order was issued.

I swear this makes me almost want to cry. I only wish that she suffers the same fate as her sister, the SS Constitution. The "Conny" sank while being towed to a scrap yard back in 1997. A more fitting end for a beautiful ship than to be gutted in that s**t hole Alang.

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posted 11/03/2009 08:53 PM

ctwhitechin wrote:

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If my pocket could afford it we would go on Silverseas or Seabourn but they're a bit pricey.

My wife booked a cruise aboard seabourn in August it cost the couple close to 20k

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posted 11/03/2009 09:05 PM

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I'm feeling strong, my blue blazer with the custom buttons feels like armor tonight

Despite all the people on board, Gina and I made friends that we saw regularly around the ship

must be your magnetic personality, couldn't have anything to do with that hotty you should be marrying

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posted 11/03/2009 09:31 PM

Aquarius.....We used to water ski around the Constitition and Independence when they were moored in Kailua Bay. Shades

Sad to see them go. Frown

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posted 11/03/2009 09:36 PM

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couldn't have anything to do with that hotty you should be marrying

Yea, G's the social one. But I wasn't too bad on this trip.

A few of our friends.

Ashley from the new Survivor and her sister Brenna

A nice newlywed couple Greg and Marie.

(Speaking of newlyweds, why you trying to do that to me Skippy????????)

The ugly breadloaf we called home for almost two weeks.

And despite the thousands of people on board, we were able to get to know the cruise director James, and assistant cruise directors Martin, Hersh and Brie. (Just James and Martin here with G's parents).

The point being, despite the enormous population of people on board, with only a little effort, participation in games, etc., it's very easy to make friends in a place where everyone is a stranger, and there to have a good time.

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posted 11/03/2009 10:11 PM

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Aquarius.....We used to water ski around the Constitition and Independence when they were moored in Kailua Bay. Sad to see them go.

Kona was one of my favorite ports. I went scuba diving there a few times. I saw Frank Mundus once. I asked him what the hell he was doing there. Looked at me like I was a stupid kid and said he was getting ready to retire. I was out there in '86 '87 '88.

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posted 11/03/2009 10:12 PM

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As for Mr Mako, you are by nature argumentative, which makes you the perfect moderator for the lounge, where arguments are rife. But it's erroneous to dismiss my opinions as 'unfactual.' The opinions I express are my own and you are free to disagree, as Captain Paul did (with facts). ................................. Nor do I have any plans to stop criticizing her design just because you don't like me spouting off (and this isn't even your forum ).

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